View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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92. This poll is closed
  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #12881
    Did anyone mention that Brexit has claimed another victim as the airline Flybmi goes bust?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47267901

  2. #12882
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Shadow Priest View Post
    Yep, I agree with this. To avoid conflict, I’d accept a soft Brexit / Brexit in increments.

    But I think we’ve possibly reached a point where sensible conversations like this can no longer be held.

    I’ve heard more common sense from posters in this thread than I’ve heard from our politicians.
    To give them an overwhelming amount of goodwill, I think that a lot of your politicians are smart people, just stuck in an almost absurdly bad situation. We here can talk openly about these things and do not have to take into account the political capital we might lose when taking some stances. Hard truths can seldom compete with unicorns in terms of popularity. And if being critical of Brexit is framed in the political discourse as 'unpatriotic' and 'against the will of the people', it is much easier to just keep your head down, try to talk about things as if they will work out, and let someone else take the fall. One can fault them for that, of course, but it is also very understandable and not an enviable situation to be in.

  3. #12883
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Did anyone mention that Brexit has claimed another victim as the airline Flybmi goes bust?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47267901
    No Fear, the future B-level KLM will take there spot.


    Remember kids: never fuse with the French.

  4. #12884
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KCN1Q60Q2?il=0

    OK this seems peculiar but I guess Germany only extradites because of justice harmonisation that is not part of any deal so far?
    Didn't the UK fail to include human rights in the laws they keep after Brexit?
    That would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    This could be interesting (but will probably amount to nothing): https://twitter.com/alexwickham/stat...914555393?s=21

    If this did happen I wonder what it would mean to May's chances of getting her deal through.
    Looks like it might happen this morning still...

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...05369582866434

    How many though? Tories are due for a split too and meanwhile Nigel Farages new week old party now has as many members as the Conservatives.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4069066.html

    Amazing.
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

  6. #12886
    Quote Originally Posted by slathworpe View Post
    -snip-
    You didn't even read the second sentence of his post, and thus didn't write anything relevant.

  7. #12887
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Looks like it might happen this morning still...

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...05369582866434

    How many though? Tories are due for a split too and meanwhile Nigel Farages new week old party now has as many members as the Conservatives.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4069066.html

    Amazing.
    The Mail reckoned up to 100 MPs faced deselection but I've heard reports that at the moment it is seven (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47278902). The question is how many will follow and will Con MPs hang in together or will they follow?

    Chris Leslie has confirmed his resignation - https://twitter.com/ChrisLeslieMP

    Wouldn't it be ironic if after all these years of Lab accusing the Cons of being split over the EU Lab actually split because of the EU??? How many more twists and turns will there be?
    Last edited by Pann; 2019-02-18 at 10:29 AM.

  8. #12888
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    meanwhile Nigel Farages new week old party now has as many members as the Conservatives

    Amazing.
    They also have a website with zero limits on who can sign up or how many times the same ip address can register - Amazing indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    Wouldn't it be ironic if after all these years of Lab accusing the Cons of being split over the EU Lab actually split because of the EU??? How many more twists and turns will there be?
    Spoken exactly like someone who relatively recently was calling MPs out for not choosing country over party.
    Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2019-02-18 at 10:45 AM.

  9. #12889
    Last edited by Pann; 2019-02-18 at 10:50 AM.

  10. #12890
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    And yet every other post you make on this and all your other accounts because you can't take a fucking hint that you're not welcome here is defending Brexit almost at level of Dribbles. Sorry but if it types like a brexiteer, acts like a brexiteer, defends brexit like a brexiteer. You're like those "I didn't vote for Trump I voted for Hillary." types who claim to be independent then in every thread rush to Trump's defense.

    Also "It can't get much worse for the poor." is absolute bullshit. Unless they're all about to die in the streets in their own shit it can get worse.
    .
    The fact that you can't tell any position other than your own as being that of a brexiteer is indicative of your own intellectual limitations. There are lots of shades of grey here. My position is simple to understand: I think the unity of nations is a good thing, however I am not prepared to accept the exploitation gradual extermination of the working class and the austere Pax Germanica to that end. It isn't that unusual a position.

    And as for "not being welcome here" how this forum works is this: people like you shout into an empty void and no one listens to you. For literally years, looking at your profile. It is like Sartre or something. Of your 5,378 posts none have any real content and are mostly shallow regurgitation of media views on brexit mixed with occasional profanity. Literally no one cares what you think. Your only purpose is to inflate advertising revenue. I come here for catharsis sometimes, but to be honest after about a week or so it feels like mental illness. The fact you are unable to see this suggests you are way too far down the rabbit hole to every get out of it, it is sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    You didn't even read the second sentence of his post, and thus didn't write anything relevant.
    Translation: "I am writing a short post because I can't construct a response".
    Last edited by slathworpe; 2019-02-18 at 12:01 PM.

  11. #12891


    It was long overdue, but that's the gist of it for our American friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slathworpe View Post
    Translation: "I am writing a short post because I can't construct a response".
    Considering that all you do is shitposting, it's not surprising that even his short post has more valuable content than your longest. Try to improve and have a serious conversation, otherwise people will just keep on reporting you. If you want to do low effort bullshit, this is the right spot for you: https://www.mmo-champion.com/forums/...eral-Off-Topic
    Users with <20 posts and ignored shitposters are automatically invisible. Find out how to do that here and help clean up MMO-OT!
    PSA: Being a volunteer is no excuse to make a shite job of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    The Mail reckoned up to 100 MPs faced deselection but I've heard reports that at the moment it is seven (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47278902). The question is how many will follow and will Con MPs hang in together or will they follow?

    Chris Leslie has confirmed his resignation - https://twitter.com/ChrisLeslieMP

    Wouldn't it be ironic if after all these years of Lab accusing the Cons of being split over the EU Lab actually split because of the EU??? How many more twists and turns will there be?
    I don't see how you can ever reconcile Dominic Grieves position on Brexit with those of Jacob Rees-Mogg. The Tories split, like Labour, has to happen at some point. Feb 27th when the next Brexit commons vote confirms/or not no deal?
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

  14. #12894
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    The Mail reckoned up to 100 MPs faced deselection but I've heard reports that at the moment it is seven (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47278902). The question is how many will follow and will Con MPs hang in together or will they follow?

    Chris Leslie has confirmed his resignation - https://twitter.com/ChrisLeslieMP

    Wouldn't it be ironic if after all these years of Lab accusing the Cons of being split over the EU Lab actually split because of the EU??? How many more twists and turns will there be?
    These comments seem contradictory. The MP's in question are moving because of deselection as you say. Not because of ideological issues. I'm not sure Chukka has any ideology-this is a man who took a 20K bung from coral while criticizing betting shops in parliament.

  15. #12895
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    I don't see how you can ever reconcile Dominic Grieves position on Brexit with those of Jacob Rees-Mogg. The Tories split, like Labour, has to happen at some point. Feb 27th when the next Brexit commons vote confirms/or not no deal?
    It would only take few Cons leaving to essentially bring down the government and then it is likely that A50 would be extended in order to hold a GE.

  16. #12896
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    It would only take few Cons leaving to essentially bring down the government and then it is likely that A50 would be extended in order to hold a GE.
    Not with the Labour split. Unless the tory split is larger they can carry on as the largest single party constitutionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    It would only take few Cons leaving to essentially bring down the government and then it is likely that A50 would be extended in order to hold a GE.
    Yeah, I can't see anything but a General Election solving this now, and even then that probably won't. Will the EU extend article 50 in those circumstances? I hope not, but they maybe will. The EU can't let us leave, they can't cope without us. Otherwise they'd just let us go...
    13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"

  18. #12898
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    guys put slathworpe on ignore until he is eventually banned anyway.
    What's sad about this is that you actually think any one reads your posts. Do you not notice the fact that no one responds to them?
    Last edited by slathworpe; 2019-02-18 at 12:49 PM.

  19. #12899
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Yeah, I can't see anything but a General Election solving this now, and even then that probably won't. Will the EU extend article 50 in those circumstances? I hope not, but they maybe will. The EU can't let us leave, they can't cope without us. Otherwise they'd just let us go...
    I'm not sure whether a GE is a given at the moment but there could well be a very interesting couple of weeks ahead of us.

  20. #12900
    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I'm not sure whether a GE is a given at the moment but there could well be a very interesting couple of weeks ahead of us.
    Why wouldn't there be? The Tories could easily win by 200 seats with even a small split in the Labour party. They'd have to be insane to pass this up.
    Last edited by slathworpe; 2019-02-18 at 01:58 PM.

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