View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #8421
    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    is may actually going to have to convince people 'a bad deal is better than no deal'

    this is going to be mint.

    We are going to spend a decade working out how to be worse off than we are now.

    Absolute mutants who still support brexit.
    Sorry for you. But really, what Nym said. You literally had the best trading deal in place, even better than other member states. And you are throwing it away, because it wasn't good enough. Not sure what Brexiteers expected to get out of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    So, commentaries say that Britain caved on almost all fronts. A bit predictable, just like this prediction: Parliament will sack the "breakthrough", because the UK wouldn't be the UK if it didn't find a way to mess politics up here, too.

    Still heading for a no-deal, Dribbles is probably wanking off to it as we speak. This is not a solution. DUP will most likely be the party that breaks it.
    Could we just pause for a second? I'd like to play and thank you. Imagine, if you will that you are my Merkel and I am your personal Farage.

    Some morning pornography from a new video published just yesterday, less than a minutes worth, but it surely can't go amiss...



    Thank you, very satisfying my Merkel, now where is that tissue....
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  3. #8423
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Could we just pause for a second? I'd like to play and thank you. Imagine, if you will that you are my Merkel and I am your personal Farage.

    Some morning pornography from a new video published just yesterday, less than a minutes worth, but it surely can't go amiss...



    Thank you, very satisfying my Merkel, now where is that tissue....
    I'm not sure how you think a video of an insignificant clown is going to tickle my interest enough to afford a play on that? I've heard his speeches often enough... yadda yadda, EU failure, blabla, oppression, rambleramble, strong Britain, borebore, Britain is better off without... really not sure why you even post this. You know he's an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I'm not sure how you think a video of an insignificant clown is going to tickle my interest enough to afford a play on that? I've heard his speeches often enough... yadda yadda, EU failure, blabla, oppression, rambleramble, strong Britain, borebore, Britain is better off without... really not sure why you even post this. You know he's an idiot.
    Not sure why? Because you appear to share publicly, pretty much, the same views as Merkel. Maybe you don't understand how those views and how they are articulated on forums such as this have helped bring Brexit about. Without you and your ilk Brexit would not have been possible, so with heartfelt thanks never have so many like me owed so much to so few like you.
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  5. #8425
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarch Vandal View Post
    Are you aware that Farage has already fled the UK?
    really ? To where ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarch Vandal View Post
    Are you aware that Farage has already fled the UK?
    Meaningless in a no deal scenario unless he also applied for citizenship.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  7. #8427
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    That is no basis for trade, that is basis for exploit.
    Never claimed otherwise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Never claimed otherwise...
    Yeah, but we were talking about countries, not companies.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  9. #8429
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Yeah, but we were talking about countries, not companies.
    So South Korea and the USA?
    China and Russia should count, too, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    So South Korea and the USA?
    China and Russia should count, too, right?
    Exactly, what has the UK to offer to those countries for them to think about starting trade talks before trying to get a trade agreement with the EU?
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  11. #8431
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Exactly, what has the UK to offer to those countries for them to think about starting trade talks before trying to get a trade agreement with the EU?
    Trade talks?
    We were talking about exploitation by foreign companies.

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    May's cabinet is to hear the wonderful new Brexit plan in a few minutes, starting 3pm CET.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Trade talks?
    We were talking about exploitation by foreign companies.
    Well, then you should probably have mentioned companies from those countries and not those countries.
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

  14. #8434
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Well, then you should probably have mentioned companies from those countries and not those countries.
    There is a difference?
    I thought they were all run by the wealthy elite.

    If you look at our post chain that implication should have been obvious.
    You asked for companies, I listed some examples :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    That Farage needs deportation and throwing in jail for helping to destroy this country.
    You want to enable him to claim political asylum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    That Farage needs deportation and throwing in jail for helping to destroy this country.
    Well...ya know... seems he might be

    I'm sure it's nothing important, but hey, fun times.

  16. #8436
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Sorry for you. But really, what Nym said. You literally had the best trading deal in place, even better than other member states. And you are throwing it away, because it wasn't good enough. Not sure what Brexiteers expected to get out of this.
    For the EU to be a vassal state to the UK
    Where UK citizens could walk and get jobs in Brussels, Berlin, Paris but EU citizens told to fuck off.
    Where we could walk into your hospitals, get the best treatment, but EU citizens not given any treatment.
    Where the EU would pay everything and the UK gets paid.

    That is what your average brexiteer expected. Remember the line they screamed "They need us more than we need them.". Brexiteers are and always will be deluded.

  17. #8437
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Remainers should really hold Corbyn to account though. He has absolutely no concern for Brexit other than as a chance to trigger a GE and maybe win it, the UK be damned.
    As much as I dislike Corbyn, you can't really "hold him to account", he's been in the Leave camp since day 1, he just never officially joined.

    He's a complete tool for being against the EU in the first place, especially when he's leading the party that until a few years ago was the "working class" party, but he's not being hypocritical, he's just in the unfortunate situation whereby he has to be seen to be against what the Government are doing, because he's in the opposition, while being in the full agreement with what they're actually doing.

  18. #8438
    Quote Originally Posted by Helden View Post
    As much as I dislike Corbyn, you can't really "hold him to account", he's been in the Leave camp since day 1, he just never officially joined.

    He's a complete tool for being against the EU in the first place, especially when he's leading the party that until a few years ago was the "working class" party, but he's not being hypocritical, he's just in the unfortunate situation whereby he has to be seen to be against what the Government are doing, because he's in the opposition, while being in the full agreement with what they're actually doing.
    Yes, he is in a situation where keeping his position is an act of hypocrisy.

  19. #8439
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Yes, he is in a situation where keeping his position is an act of hypocrisy.
    Oh he's a giant hypocrite, I fully agree on that point, just not in his Brexit views, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    And replacing him won't change Labours current course, because his ilk have taken full control of the party so we'll just get someone else in Corbyns place spouting the same lines.

    Labour itself should be held to account for the fuck up that is Brexit, as much as the Conservatives, can't just pin the whole thing on Corbyn.

  20. #8440
    Those not Corbyn ilk need to ask themselves. Is the Labour brand worth it? They seem to have lost the civil war right now and either need to join the Co-operative movement (A party that's been linked with labour since 1920s) and splinter off or join Lib Dems.

    The electorate prefer Labour to the Conservatives right now, but they see Corbyn and go "I can't vote for you to be PM.". Labour is usually either neck and neck with Conservatives or slightly above/below (It's like 1-2 point difference.) but when it comes to May v Corbyn, May dominates. The voters are also not saying "Bring in a Blairite." They're saying "We like your policies, but Corbyn with his history to IRA, Hezbollah, Hamas. His bullshit over no sitting on trains, his mishandling of anti semitism etc makes him toxic." then there's Dianne Abbot who has her own issues and John McDonnell who openly calls himself a Marxist, praises Lennin and Trotsky and brought in Mao's red book to read in parliament as shadow chancellor will push people away.

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