The Brexit aftermath thread

[Mayhem]

Oh great, breitbart links.

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Just to clear things up, because as per usual Dribbles has problems with the language.

The law he's talking about is a German one. It would only be illegal in Germany.

So, don't worry Dribbsy, you and your fellow moderate brextremists can still burn the EU flag as often as you want.

[dribbles]

Oh great, breitbart links.

English news sites haven't picked it up in the main...yet. So just for you the original source in your local dialect.

https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/...n_aid-39567189

[dribbles]

Even says Germany in his title... he copy/pasted it and still didn't get it >_>

Yeah but I enjoy travelling to Germany now and then, always take spare toilet paper with me. So are you saying I'm still safe to take my EU adorned bog paper with me? I won't get locked up for wiping my derriere with it? Hard to tell with some of these crazy laws the EUSSR are implementing...

[Mayhem]

Even says Germany in his title... he copy/pasted it and still didn't get it >_>

That said, didn't know "moderates" liked to read Breitbart.

At some point, you'd have to wonder how bad of a luck Dribbsy has, I mean he should've found at least one link that actually proves him right not wrong. What are the chances?

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Good job I took my EU toilet paper avatar down isn't it eurochums? They were planning to lock me up!

Damaging the “the symbols of the European Union” could result in a fine or a custodial term of up to three years under new laws proposed in Germany.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...rning-eu-flag/

I can't think why the UK voted to leave...

A law proposed by a state to amend the already-existing law that criminalizes the burning of national flags (the EU flag currently doesn't count as it is not a nation).

What, exactly, was your point? If, indeed, you had one?

Hard to tell with some of these crazy laws the EUSSR are implementing...

The EU has nothing to do with this law (proposal). Stop trying to troll.

[Kiri]

English news sites haven't picked it up in the main...yet. So just for you the original source in your local dialect.

https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/...n_aid-39567189

And if you could read it, you would also be able to tell from the same source that Germany already protects symbols of other nation states in that same manner. That new law would simply afford EU symbols the same protections as those of the UK for example. It really is not that big a deal.

[ranzino]

And if you could read it, you would also be able to tell from the same source that Germany already protects symbols of other nation states in that same manner. That new law would simply afford EU symbols the same protections as those of the UK for example. It really is not that big a deal.

just for clarification: you can burn your very own (you purchased/knitted/whatever it) flag in question anytime, but care for fire protection.
taking down the flag from whatever flagpole is not nice and burning it on top is bad. very bad.

[Slant]

Oh great, breitbart links.

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Just to clear things up, because as per usual Dribbles has problems with the language.

The law he's talking about is a German one. It would only be illegal in Germany.

So, don't worry Dribbsy, you and your fellow moderate brextremists can still burn the EU flag as often as you want.

Also, it's worth mentioning that Germany already protects flags and symbols of foreign nations in this manner. Since the EU is not a nation, the EU does not enjoy the same protection. This would really just elevate the symbols of the EU to those of nations. Quite literally a symolic gesture.

The irony is that... if Dribbles supports the Breitbart article, he will have to acknowledge that the member states of the EU are sovereign, while the EU isn't. This would fuck up Brexit at the core, because it robs him of his main argument.

[AeneasBK]

his main argument.

Ah now, don't be giving undue credit, you'll make it sound like they had a coherent argument at any stage :O

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

This would fuck up Brexit at the core, because it robs him of his main argument.

He has arguments? I thought he merely starts them.

[Gigantique]

Ooof, talk about dribdibs swaggering RIGHT into that one.

Why would one EVER provide a breitbart article about a law in Germany, when there are resident Germans that can instantaneously set the record straight? Rookie mistake if ever I saw one.

10/10 for chuckles tho

[dribbles]

He has arguments? I thought he merely starts them.

Forgive me. It might be an odd concept to you eurochums but I live in a free country that doesn't feel the need to make it illegal to burn the Union Jack here should I so choose, or wipe my butt with the EU one.

The new EU laws don't specify burning in any case, perhaps just scowling at the EU flag is enough for my incarceration, what about flushing the EU flag superimposed onto toilet paper into the sewers covered in excrement?

Why is the EU so scared of that? And to say that a German law is not an EU law is false, presumably my extradition to face charges awaits under the European arrest warrant, or will do once this new law comes into force. Let's hope the UK exits the EU before yet another ridiculous EU law applies to British people.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Forgive me. It might be an odd concept to you eurochums but I live in a free country that doesn't feel the need to make it illegal to burn the Union Jack here should I so choose, or wipe my butt with the EU one.

It's about having respect for other nations. Something that you are severely lacking. Not that I would expect you to have any respect for other countries, given that you have no respect for your own.

The new EU laws don't specify burning in any case, perhaps just scowling at the EU flag is enough for my incarceration, what about flushing the EU flag superimposed onto toilet paper into the sewers covered in excrement?

It is not an EU law. It isn't even a German law yet.

Why is the EU so scared of that? And to say that a German law is not an EU law is false, presumably my extradition to face charges awaits under the European arrest warrant, or will do once this new law comes into force. Let's hope the UK exits the EU before yet another ridiculous EU law applies to British people.

No, German laws are not the same as EU laws. You are wrong. As always.

[Demolitia]

Forgive me. It might be an odd concept to you eurochums but I live in a free country that doesn't feel the need to make it illegal to burn the Union Jack here should I so choose, or wipe my butt with the EU one.

The new EU laws don't specify burning in any case, perhaps just scowling at the EU flag is enough for my incarceration, what about flushing the EU flag superimposed onto toilet paper into the sewers covered in excrement?

Why is the EU so scared of that? And to say that a German law is not an EU law is false, presumably my extradition to face charges awaits under the European arrest warrant, or will do once this new law comes into force. Let's hope the UK exits the EU before yet another ridiculous EU law applies to British people.

Man ... you should go for an MRI ....

[Twdft]

I think it was mentioned here before: In Germany you can burn flags you own of other countries as much as you want and wipe your sorry ass with them if you wish. Illegal is only to burn a foreign flag that is shown by an official of that foreign nation or in support of that foreign nation.

Which means if you make a demonstration against a foreign country in front of their embassy you can burn all the flags you brought with you, but not the one the embassy put up.

Don't know how to make it any more clear so everyone understands the concept.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I think it was mentioned here before: In Germany you can burn flags you own of other countries as much as you want and wipe your sorry ass with them if you wish. Illegal is only to burn a foreign flag that is shown by an official of that foreign nation or in support of that foreign nation.

Which means if you make a demonstration against a foreign country in front of their embassy you can burn all the flags you brought with you, but not the one the embassy put up.

Don't know how to make it any more clear so everyone understands the concept.

Which basically means that dribbles can continue to use his EU Flag bog roll, so long as it isn't used officially by an embassy or the like to represent the presence of the EU as an institution (while looking for more Breitbart molehills he can try to make a mountain out of).

[Kallisto]

I think it was mentioned here before: In Germany you can burn flags you own of other countries as much as you want and wipe your sorry ass with them if you wish. Illegal is only to burn a foreign flag that is shown by an official of that foreign nation or in support of that foreign nation.

Which means if you make a demonstration against a foreign country in front of their embassy you can burn all the flags you brought with you, but not the one the embassy put up.

Don't know how to make it any more clear so everyone understands the concept.

So in essence it's "you can't burn shit you don't own." law?

Sounds 1000% sensible to me if so.

Watch in the future Dribbles will complain about the EU not stopping people burning flags.

[LeGin Tufnel]

Flag desecration is such an important issue.

Inspiration from the Peruvians:

In 2008 the dancer, model and actress Leysi Suárez appeared naked photographed using Peru's flag as a saddle while mounted on a horse. The country's defence minister said she would face charges that could put her in jail for up to four years for offending patriotic symbols".

While in the UK:

A year later [1999], two "committed socialists" threw a burning Union flag in the direction of the Queen's motor vehicle. They were arrested for breach of the peace, subsequently pleaded guilty and were fined a total of £450

I piss metaphorically, from a safe & anonymous distance, on your flag, religious text or similar.

[dribbles]

I think it was mentioned here before: In Germany you can burn flags you own of other countries as much as you want and wipe your sorry ass with them if you wish. Illegal is only to burn a foreign flag that is shown by an official of that foreign nation or in support of that foreign nation.

Which means if you make a demonstration against a foreign country in front of their embassy you can burn all the flags you brought with you, but not the one the embassy put up.

Don't know how to make it any more clear so everyone understands the concept.

Can a German in Germany burn the German flag (and other EU countries) or do they not have that basic human right?

Because I am questioning this article...

In a motley array of countries, liberal or not so much so, flag-burning is regarded as a crime. Turkey and Israel, but also Switzerland, France, Germany, Romania and Portugal react to the desecration of the flag, sometimes even in private situations, with fines or a prison sentence.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...l-2226102.html

[Slant]

Ah now, don't be giving undue credit, you'll make it sound like they had a coherent argument at any stage :O

No mercy. I want even the fake arguments to be utterly destructed. I want them to admit in shame that they are a sham. I am not British, I don't need to care about reconsiliation.

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Forgive me. It might be an odd concept to you eurochums but I live in a free country that doesn't feel the need to make it illegal to burn the Union Jack here should I so choose, or wipe my butt with the EU one.

The new EU laws don't specify burning in any case, perhaps just scowling at the EU flag is enough for my incarceration, what about flushing the EU flag superimposed onto toilet paper into the sewers covered in excrement?

Why is the EU so scared of that? And to say that a German law is not an EU law is false, presumably my extradition to face charges awaits under the European arrest warrant, or will do once this new law comes into force. Let's hope the UK exits the EU before yet another ridiculous EU law applies to British people.

German law only applies in Germany. Jurisdiction is still a thing in reality.

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I think it was mentioned here before: In Germany you can burn flags you own of other countries as much as you want and wipe your sorry ass with them if you wish. Illegal is only to burn a foreign flag that is shown by an official of that foreign nation or in support of that foreign nation.

Which means if you make a demonstration against a foreign country in front of their embassy you can burn all the flags you brought with you, but not the one the embassy put up.

Don't know how to make it any more clear so everyone understands the concept.

Conceptually, this is in line with US Supreme Court rulings as well. And they're hardcore about free speech.