When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams
Turns out some of the MEPs didn't know what they were voting for on Article 13 and want to vote again.
Well see it like this.
Every Pro-Brexit politician ran for the hill the day after Cameron resigned and non of them wanted anything to do with making sure the UK left the EU in a good fashion.
Than when May got in power she had some pretty strong anti EU cabinet members in relevant positions.
David Davis, Boris Johnson and Liam Fox
As far as I know all 3 of these had a really important positions in the this processes and are all anti EU so in the past 3 years they all had a chance to shape this processes in such a way that the Leave camp could accept.
Honestly I don't think they really care about May's deal that much or leaving the EU as it is now. Leaving the EU is secondary to there quest for becoming PM themselves. Don't forget though, reason why the UK is in a mess is because the British government was never prepared for anything. Ireland and the EU prepared for multiply scenario's and knew what they where doing at every step, EU just followed the processes. May and her goons ran on multiply fairytale level assumptions and instead of trying to work towards a solution that had broad support she just went further to the right.
So she can't bring the meaningful vote back a third time, so she's splitting the withdrawl agreement from the political declararion and bringing half a meaningful vote to the Commons tomorrow.
Except that wouldn't actually satisfy the requirements for leaving the EU.
Plus the DUP won't back it anyway, so it's dead on arrival and merely an indicator that we'll be requesting a longer Brexit extension, and as such be holding MEP elections
So this has given me some insight into the swivel eyed lunacy of the cult that is the ERG.
See I thought they were somewhere between uncaring and stupid, a dangerous mix of both. But reading that.....I mean they honestly think the EU is th monster in the closet.Originally Posted by Andrew Bridgen
Last edited by Kronik85; 2019-03-28 at 08:36 PM.
There is speculation that they're just using that as an excuse to exonerate their accountability. There doesn't seem to be a great urgency to re-vote on this, which is odd, if foul play was involved. So I'd be cautious with that bit of news for the moment. We'll have to see how it develops.
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It's more calling the WA a "trap". Which in turn implies that the Govt putting forward the WA without the PD is a conspiracy in order to keep the UK in the EU. This is David Ike level stuff at play here, the amount of people this would take in order for it to be true. It's fucking batshit.
The vote today is a trap to get us to miss the April 12th EU council deadline - beyond that point, the choice will be May's deal vs no deal. Ideally it doesn't pass, but quite a few Labour MPs will probably end up bribed/threatened into voting for it, so might be very tight.
13/11/2022 Sir Keir Starmer. "Brexit is safe in my hands, Let me be really clear about Brexit. There is no case for going back into the EU and no case for going into the single market or customs union. Freedom of movement is over"
Leavers seem to believe that democracy is defined by a single action at a single point in time. Until you point out that we voted to join the EU first, at which point they believe that changed circumstances can lead to fresh votes.
Except for a change in circumstances after the vote they won, of course. That has to be ignored. For democratic reasons.
Leaver logic is a strange malleable thing.
When challenging a Kzin, a simple scream of rage is sufficient. You scream and you leap.
Originally Posted by George CarlinOriginally Posted by Douglas Adams