Do you believe Alt-Right Neo Nazis should be listened to?

[Garnier Fructis]

I mean think about it. That you could marry a successful black man who was medical doctor or tenured professor of physics at Harvard and that your family would look down on you, or you could marry some dead-beat guy who was Korean and your family wouldn't have a problem with that.

And that doesn't sound stupid to you?

This literally happened to one of my aunts. She wasn't allowed to marry an indigenous dude who later on got a PHD and did very well for himself, because he wasn't Han Chinese and my grandfather wasn't having any of it. She ended up marrying someone who had a decent job but wasn't nearly as accomplished as the first guy.

The only reason I exist is because apparently 'white guy' ranks close enough to 'han chinese' on the social totem pole for it to have been an acceptable marriage.

[Freighter]

He could be at or above you in social status but still be a lazy bum.

What? From what I found when searching what dead-beat it means someone who has like no money and struggles to pay bills. So, no.

[JohnBrown1917]

Same goes for the Alt left, facts hurt them just as much just take a gander and wikileaks, somebody did journalism and showed the nasty true on hillary and everyone loses their shit like the truth is bad lol.

lol the alt left is not a thing, you guys just made it up.
Clinton is also hated in left wing circles, so not sure why you bring her up.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

As soon as they choose to go Nazi than they have lost my interest. I can accept people with strong right views. I disagree with them but life is full of that. But once you dawn a symbol of the Nazi and use it for whatever than you are a piece of shit. To many people died fighting that shit back and to many people died at their hands for basiclly horseshit reasons.

[Heladys]

As soon as they choose to go Nazi than they have lost my interest. I can accept people with strong right views. I disagree with them but life is full of that. But once you dawn a symbol of the Nazi and use it for whatever than you are a piece of shit. To many people died fighting that shit back and to many people died at their hands for basiclly horseshit reasons.

Absolutely. You can do business with a conservative, even a far-right conservative. You can't do business with a fucking Nazi.

[Kaleredar]

What? From what I found when searching what dead-beat it means someone who has like no money and struggles to pay bills. So, no.

Dead-beat generally means a guy who's a slouch and usually disregards his family.

[Freighter]

Dead-beat generally means a guy who's a slouch and usually disregards his family.

Well, I wouldn't be in a relationship with such a person in the first place.

[Mormolyce]

Same goes for the Alt left, facts hurt them just as much

I'll bet facts hurt a fictional organisation.

[Stormspark]

Listen to them long enough to get them on the terrorist watch list, and for someone to line up a punch. Their only platform should be a stretcher.

^
This. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Kaneiac]

Everyone has a voice. Suppression, historically, has been disastrous.

[Mormolyce]

I don't see what's so confusing about that. You call everyone american if they have citizenship.

I mean sane mainstream Americans do.

The alt right/white supremacists/neo Nazis not so much.

[Sinyc]

The nazi ideology is violent.

I know. But you don't defeat todays Nazis or equivalent with violent acts against them. In their minds that strengthens their arguments for why they are the way they are.

[Xerra]

Do you believe communist Antifa should be listened to?

[Jastall]

Not listened to as in denied a platform? No.

Not listened to as in ignoring every single thing that comes out of their vile ideology? You betcha.

[Draco-Onis]

I don't really think you understand the argument....

You keep relying on out liners to prove your point nothing is a 100%

So your motto is we are sometimes the master races because they are out liners

I should have known better than to argue with you on this just keep thinking you are superior to other races.

[Kaleredar]

Well, I wouldn't be in a relationship with such a person in the first place.

Perhaps, but that doesn't change the fact that your family wouldn't have such an immediate issue with him, wherein they would with a black man, no matter how successful and/or good to you he was.

[Wyrt]

What do you mean by platform exactly... they have a right to public spaces surely or are you one who believes that driving them into the shadows is acceptable.

Nazis should be driven into the shadows. It's where they belong. They have no place in civilized society.

[kyoloco]

most people shouldn't be listened to

[eillas]

I know. But you don't defeat todays Nazis or equivalent with violent acts against them. In their minds that strengthens their arguments for why they are the way they are.

Historically speaking, violence works on nazis while talking to them didn't. We had an entire war dealing with them.

[Deleted]

Person A says " I believe everyone has the right to say what they want, you don't have to listen to them".
Person B says " You're a Nazi supporter and you disgust me would you be the same if we swapped Nazi's with Muslims (literally used the world Muslims)"

Like what kind of response is that? what is wrong with you people?

Same person A says "Yes, Muslims can also say and do what they want as long as it stays with just talking. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it"
Person B says "Ok, we get it, you hate brown people"

Like what the fuck kind of argument is this? You're a racist for disagreeing with someone on a topic? A racist for believing everyone should have to right to speak and not be silenced?

What the fuck is this forum turning into to? And shit like this isn't infracted?