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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Why? Because he isn't wrong.
    Pretty much.

    Skroe and most others have been saying since the probe started that "collusion" is a nebulous charge which is difficult to substantiate; which bore out, if Barr is to believed. The question was always whether or not there was an attempt to obstruct justice: and on that note, the only thing we know is that Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence for the DoJ to indict Trump - by the standards of a man who was put into the position of Attorney General for the express purpose of shielding Trump from indictment.

    Basically, the only thing that will exonerate Trump at this point is the text of the report explicitly saying as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Oh god here we go.
    What? it is true. Until we have the full report on our proverbial laps, we cant jump to a conclussion.
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  3. #17083
    Quote Originally Posted by MoanaLisa View Post
    Asset seizure from Manafort paid for it.
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    "You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Oh god here we go.
    Don't make stupid posts and don't get shit on. Simple enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Pretty much.

    Skroe and most others have been saying since the probe started that "collusion" is a nebulous charge which is difficult to substantiate; which bore out, if Barr is to believed. The question was always whether or not there was an attempt to obstruct justice: and on that note, the only thing we know is that Mueller didn't find sufficient evidence for the DoJ to indict Trump - by the standards of a man who was put into the position of Attorney General for the express purpose of shielding Trump from indictment.

    Basically, the only thing that will exonerate Trump at this point is the text of the report explicitly saying as such.
    The bolded part is important.
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  6. #17086
    Seems you Lefties just got a dose of reality.

    A tough pill to swallow, I know, given that you live in a pile of your own delusions.

  7. #17087
    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    How is an investigation that resulted in a whole bunch of indictments considered "useless"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    Manafort, Flynn, and Stone (among others) being on active investigations/in Jail is not what i would say... useless
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    So anyway Mueller, with all the information presented to him made it clear: Trump did not collude with Russia.
    It also doesn't exonerate him, which is the big thing. So really all that was said was "maybe, maybe not." Which is about the biggest tease you can do with something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidestorm View Post
    Seems you Lefties just got a dose of reality.

    A tough pill to swallow, I know, given that you live in a pile of your own delusions.
    This guy gets it.

    This whole scenario is hilarious lol.

    Sweet, sweet justice amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steristumpie View Post
    The Kavanaugh effect.
    What does Kavanaugh have to do anything, and also he was never proven innocent or guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Don't make stupid posts and don't get shit on. Simple enough.
    I'm not getting into it with the fan club, who would rather deny reality then recall all of those "Trump's going to get shit on by Mueller" posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    How is it "wasted" if it made money?

    And how many indictments and guilty pleas has this investigation produced, again? Or were all of those some sort of elaborate hoax?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Money laundering, especially prior to his election? I couldn't give a flying fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidestorm View Post
    Seems you Lefties just got a dose of reality.

    A tough pill to swallow, I know, given that you live in a pile of your own delusions.
    Well if the "leftists" are to follow republican example, they'll launch a further seven investigations into Trump's possible collusion, à la Benghazi.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seashell86 View Post
    This guy gets it.

    This whole scenario is hilarious lol.

    Sweet, sweet justice amirite?
    Slow down there, ink still isn't dry from the Hillary Clinton witch hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seashell86 View Post
    This guy gets it.

    This whole scenario is hilarious lol.

    Sweet, sweet justice amirite?
    Let me get this straight.

    The Attorney-General chosen specifically to shield the President from indictment issues a statement to the effect of "we didn't find evidence of collusion but he's not off the hook on obstruction of justice", and you somehow deem this a win? Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I'm not getting into it with the fan club, who would rather deny reality then recall all of those "Trump's going to get shit on by Mueller" posts.
    Given that the report hasn't been made privy to anyone but the DoJ, that remains a valid option.

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    The office also "obtained more than 230 orders for communication records, issued almost 50 orders authorizing use of pen registers, made 13 requests to foreign governments for evidence, and interviewed approximately 500 witnesses" during the probe
    And found

    NOTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    I'm not getting into it with the fan club, who would rather deny reality then recall all of those "Trump's going to get shit on by Mueller" posts.
    Which reality. There's a ton of legalese going on here. There're a lot of important keywords (not exonerated for example, or the Russian Government part), and also the fact that it seems that he didnt coordinate with Mueller for the release of this 2 pages, which are a heavily redacted and sanitized version of the full investigation. And also the Fact that this fella tried to cover up the Iran-Contra. scandal.

    I'd be the first to admit that i would have loved to see Dotard Tang branded as a traitor, but that is extremely hard to do. Even then, it doesnt explain why the fuck he's so cozy with russia, and he readily accepts any request from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    When did making money mean "wasting money"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    How is it "wasted" if it made money?

    And how many indictments and guilty pleas has this investigation produced, again? Or were all of those some sort of elaborate hoax?
    25 of those were for members of the Russian version of 4chan

    Good LUCK getting them into court

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