Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

[Saucexorzski]

I mean, it's the entire implication behind calling someone a "keyboard warrior". The use of that name is shorthand for, "you wouldn't say that in any other setting because you'd very likely get your ass kicked". It's not a threat, it's an accurate observation and a call for sensibility.

Yeah, the internet makes heros of all of us. We say rude things meant to hurt others emotionally because we like hurting those who we disagree with, and we can get away with it unscathed. Like their calling you a pedo, I doubt they truly believe it, instead they are just saying it because they are pissed off at you.

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The lack of mental fortitude is all you...
You want to fling shit while ignoring your own shitstained face.

And you don't want to fling shit? are you not a human?

[Dacien]

This subforum is off the rails lol.

Just bedlam. Mueller guys, we were talking about Mueller.

[Citizen T]

This subforum is off the rails lol.

Just bedlam. Mueller guys, we were talking about Mueller.

This is exactly correct. Keep it on topic

[Dontrike]

Oh god...got Russians on the left now! What if there are Russians everywhere? What if we're all just Russians!?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rt/3311491002/

Good, get him if he lied. See your problem is any rational person wants anyone brought to justice for shit they did. That's what happens when we leave our own little worlds and stop these gotcha statements of yours. Nice try though, albeit it a poor attempt.

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Posts that won't age well. Like so many in this thread.

You're one to talk about posts not aging well, should I go back and find your most infamous one?

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I'm not even trolling or exaggerating, at least 85% of the content of these posts in this thread have been incorrect. I on the other hand, have been correct more often than I've been incorrect, by a decent margin.

*snirk*....Oh I mean....yeah TOTALLY, I agree fully. I'd call you the next Nostradamus, but Jeezy took that title, you'll have to fight him for it.

Being serious though, I'd like to see you prove that statement. There's literally whole threads of you being completely wrong.

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It's just fantastically ironic folks have been posting unsourced conspiracy theories in this thread for years and the moment someone mentions something that the AG overtly stated IS coming down the pipe, y'all have the audacity to call it a conspiracy theory.

The man fully said he has ZERO evidence, that in of itself is a conspiracy if he's just calling for investigation with there being literally nothing to back it up. At this point you are fully ignoring the zero evidence bit and being ignorant on purpose.

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We'll have to see if Peter Strzok or Andre McCabe agree with you when they're sitting behind bars.

Woah, you've got that much pull you can get people to post from prison? Perhaps you are magic.

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Peter Strzok and Andrew McCabe will be sitting behind bars and I hope it burns you to your core.

I'm sure you said that part I've bolded about Moore too, how'd work out?

[Canpinter]

We'll have to see if Peter Strzok or Andre McCabe agree with you when they're sitting behind bars.

im still confused, what crimes do you think they have actually committed?

[Draco-Onis]

im still confused, what crimes do you think they have actually committed?

They talked bad about Trump a capital crime for his worshipers.

[DarkTZeratul]

im still confused, what crimes do you think they have actually committed?

They investigated him to see if he committed a crime. You're apparently not allowed to do that unless you already have proof that they committed the crime in question.

[Dontrike]

im still confused, what crimes do you think they have actually committed?

Not liking their god king and also having an affair while not liking their god king.

[Flarelaine]

I can hardly believe so many people are still taking the bait from a known wingman act.

[Aenigma84]

Who the fuck do you hang out with that's so violent and aggressive like this?

calling somebody a pedo for no reason will get you beaten by alot of regular men, you can be sure of that,
normal people will be pretty upset, that is one of the worst things you can insult somebody with in my opinion,

if you consider it normal that people can say that without warrant then something is wrong with you not the guy defending himself with agression

[shimerra]

calling somebody a pedo for no reason will get you beaten by alot of regular men, you can be sure of that,
normal people will be pretty upset, that is one of the worst things you can insult somebody with in my opinion,

if you consider it normal that people can say that without warrant then something is wrong with you not the guy defending himself with agression

No, the guy resorting to violence because mean things were said to him is always objectively in the wrong and the worse person. He's not defending anything, he's attacking someone else because he can't control his emotions. I mean sometimes it's more understandable, far be it for me to begrudge any of the sandy hook parents from taking a bat to Alex jones's face. But in the context of your terrible hypothetical congrats. You made a strawman and got beat up by your own strawman.


And secondly there is a reason he's being called a pedo. Because he spent weeks shilling and defending one and then cockily declared his superior prognostication skills had told him said pedo would surely win the election! So he can be as upset as he wants and you can shed crocodile tears for him if you want.

[Breccia]

Rosenstein says Barr is being mislabeled as holding back the report.

“It would be one thing if you put out a letter and said, ‘I’m not going to give you the report,’" Rosenstein told the Journal. “What he said is, ‘Look, it’s going to take a while to process the report. In the meantime, people really want to know what’s in it. I’m going to give you the top-line conclusions.’ That’s all he was trying to do.”

And to be clear: I'm agreeing with him. Barr was given a May 2nd deadline which, considering he came up with the 4-page memo pretty quickly, seems like plenty of time. If he fails to meet that deadline, then he loses the credit I'm extending.

P.S. The HJC (in fact, the House XXX Committee in general) has security clearances that were earned, not given.

[pathora44]

Rosenstein says Barr is being mislabeled as holding back the report.



And to be clear: I'm agreeing with him. Barr was given a May 2nd deadline which, considering he came up with the 4-page memo pretty quickly, seems like plenty of time. If he fails to meet that deadline, then he loses the credit I'm extending.

P.S. The HJC (in fact, the House XXX Committee in general) has security clearances that were earned, not given.

Sorry I don't give Barr even an ounce of credibility. The man wrote a 18 page resume letter head on his own volition to Trump telling him he doesn't believe the President can ever be indicted of a crime. In essence the President is above the law and unable to be touched by the law. Then during his appearance before the House over the last couple of days he blew a 10 foot tall dogwhistle to Trump and his followers saying the Obama administration "spied" on Trump's campaign and that Democrats were trying to derail a political opponent. Which is nothing but lies and he knows it but he has to continue to prove his loyalty to Trump above his position, the Constitution and his country. Then he goes on to say he is going to making a panel to investigate the Mueller investigation even though the independent Inspector General is already doing it. This is all for Trump and his followers to continue to attack and discredit the Mueller Report which I completely believe will be very bad for Trump when all is said and done.

[cubby]

Trump told Acting DHS Secretary that he would pardon him if he broke the law violating immigrant rights. Two witnesses.

They are already spinning it as *whatever-sauce*, because that's all they have at this point, but now it's out there. Clear indications that Trump is peddling Pardons for people who break the law under his orders.

Not that we didn't already have proof of it.

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Rosenstein says Barr is being mislabeled as holding back the report.

“It would be one thing if you put out a letter and said, ‘I’m not going to give you the report,’" Rosenstein told the Journal. “What he said is, ‘Look, it’s going to take a while to process the report. In the meantime, people really want to know what’s in it. I’m going to give you the top-line conclusions.’ That’s all he was trying to do.”

And to be clear: I'm agreeing with him. Barr was given a May 2nd deadline which, considering he came up with the 4-page memo pretty quickly, seems like plenty of time. If he fails to meet that deadline, then he loses the credit I'm extending.

But it looks as though he already misquoted the report with his conclusions found in the four page summary. We're seeing Mueller investigators who wrote the "chapter summaries" saying that Barr isn't conveying their points, and is in fact making light of most of the information. I get that Barr has to process the report, and I appreciate that Rosenstein came out and said what he did, but there is still an avalanche of mistrust coming from Barr. And he's done nothing to quell it.

[Bodakane]

I just need someone to explain why it takes WEEKS MAYBE A MONTH OR MORE to "process the report" for release but it took a couple of hours to "process" and summarize its findings?

[Edge-]

I just need someone to explain why it takes WEEKS MAYBE A MONTH OR MORE to "process the report" for release but it took a couple of hours to "process" and summarize its findings?

Because summarizing two high level outcomes from the report is far, far, far easier than needing to review each sentence and word to see which need to be redacted for a variety of reasons (removing the names of non-involved civilian parties, removing grand-jury material, removing material about ongoing investigations, removing sensitive material regarding intelligence gathering/methods etc.).

Those things aren't a big part of a consideration for a summary (even if the summary is questionable) since they're dealing with generalities. Specifics take far longer, because they require inter-agency cooperation that adds a lot of time onto things.

[Grapemask]

Because summarizing two high level outcomes from the report is far, far, far easier than needing to review each sentence and word to see which need to be redacted for a variety of reasons (removing the names of non-involved civilian parties, removing grand-jury material, removing material about ongoing investigations, removing sensitive material regarding intelligence gathering/methods etc.).

Those things aren't a big part of a consideration for a summary (even if the summary is questionable) since they're dealing with generalities. Specifics take far longer, because they require inter-agency cooperation that adds a lot of time onto things.

This is true, although it really irks me that Congress is not being given the full unredacted report in the meantime. They have every clearance needed and if anyone in government seriously thought they would leak it, they would not have those clearances because none of them are Trump's friends and family (well okay, maybe half of them are his friends, but they're the half that would happily bury it).

Although the less practical part of me wants to comment that it only takes a few hours to finish a paper when you prepared the 18-page draft a year earlier.

[Dacien]

Because summarizing two high level outcomes from the report is far, far, far easier than needing to review each sentence and word to see which need to be redacted for a variety of reasons (removing the names of non-involved civilian parties, removing grand-jury material, removing material about ongoing investigations, removing sensitive material regarding intelligence gathering/methods etc.).

Those things aren't a big part of a consideration for a summary (even if the summary is questionable) since they're dealing with generalities. Specifics take far longer, because they require inter-agency cooperation that adds a lot of time onto things.

To add to this, which I mentioned before, much of the material and interviews provided were covered by executive privilege. Now it's my understanding that Trump has deferred to Barr on any redactions on the grounds of executive privilege, but to complicate matters, Trump's lawyer during part of the investigation stated that many of these witnesses were under an agreement with Mueller that their testimony was confidential and covered by executive privilege. So Barr, assuming he's studious, will likely be reaching out to each of these individuals to obtain waivers.

Suppose some of them decline? Suppose some are willing, but only some portions? In addition to all the items you accurately spelled out, and combined with his discretion on executive privilege disclosure broadly, this all takes a lot of time.

[Shadowferal]

I'm reminded of this:

[Cthulhu 2020]

Who the fuck do you hang out with that's so violent and aggressive like this?

Himself.

But I guess @Sulla, @Saucexorzski and the rest of our resident forum alt-right hang out with ultra violent people.

If someone called me a pedophile, I'd just laugh and ignore them. If they continued, me and my friends would call the cops for harassment. Why is it always the right side of the political spectrum that advocates violence? Or just takes violent action as a given? For as much as they accuse the left and the left's groups of violence, these guys are both quick to anger and quick to resort to violence.

Also Sulla, you wonder who hangs out with people who calls others pedophiles without warrant, but you gave people pretty good reason in that Roy Moore thread. Just saying. Not a threat, just a fact.