Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

[Breccia]

Was this posted already?

Not directly, no. Good post.

Relevant: 30 days and $20,000 is basically nothing. van der Zwaan must have given Mueller something useful.

[Shadowferal]

I'm hoping those 30 days is a clock ticking down.

[alexw]

Not directly, no. Good post.

Relevant: 30 days and $20,000 is basically nothing. van der Zwaan must have given Mueller something useful.

He gave Mueller secret tape recordings of his conversations with Rick Gates who is himself now cooperating. But now we likely know why Gates turned coat. The recordings meant Mueller had his balls in a vice.

[Orbitus]

I'm hoping those 30 days is a clock ticking down.

Now, does that mean when he gets out, does he get a target put on his back for random poisoning like those 2 in the UK?

[Stormspark]

Now, does that mean when he gets out, does he get a target put on his back for random poisoning like those 2 in the UK?

It would not surprise me one bit if he tripped and fell on some bullets, or got polonium tea. If I were someone working with Mueller, I would change my looks and identity and move as far as as I could from wherever I was. The Russian government has proven it is dangerous and willing to go after people no matter where they are.

[BrerBear]

Bunch of Roger Stone news coming out.

In emails to Cray Cray Sam Nunberg in August 2016, Stone told Nunberg he had dined with Julian Assange the night before.

And then he went on InfoWars the same day claiming devastating Clinton disclosures were coming.

Uh oh!

In more fun news, the email released by the Wall Street Journal contains Stone and Nunberg's Hotmail addresses, and some careful sleuthing on that email has revealed more evidence of Roger Stone being a literal cuck on swinger sites, lol! Can't include because NSFMMO-C, but yikes.

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A summary of Roger Stone's timeline in the Wall Street Journal story:

Mr. Stone has been inconsistent in his statements about WikiLeaks and Mr. Assange. During the 2016 campaign, he indicated that he was in direct contact with Mr. Assange. He has also said he communicated with him, but through an intermediary. In a text message with the Journal Friday, he said he never communicated with Mr. Assange.

On Aug. 5, 2016, the day after the email claiming to have dined with Mr. Assange, Mr. Stone tweeted: “Hillary lies about Russian Involvement in DNC hack -Julian Assange is a hero.”

Three days later, Mr. Stone told a Republican group in Florida that he had communicated with the WikiLeaks founder and that he believed more damaging documents about Mrs. Clinton would be released in the months to come. “There’s no telling what the October surprise may be,” Mr. Stone told the crowd.

Then, on Aug. 21, Mr. Stone foreshadowed trouble for Mr. Podesta, whose emails would be dumped online weeks later. “Trust me,” Mr. Stone tweeted, “it will soon [be] the Podesta’s time in the barrel. #CrookedHillary.”

On Oct. 3, Mr. Stone again claimed WikiLeaks had damaging material on Mrs. Clinton: “I have total confidence that @wikileaks and my hero Julian Assange will educate the American people soon #LockHerUp.” On Oct. 5, he wrote: “Libs thinking Assange will stand down are wishful thinking. Payload coming #Lockthemup.”

Two days later, WikiLeaks released the first batch of Mr. Podesta’s hacked emails.

Mr. Stone told the Journal that his tweet referencing “the Podesta’s” was about John Podesta and his brother, Tony, and their lobbying activities.

Stone's story has changed so many times now that he's been contradicted with both these emails and the direct DMs he had with Wikileaks, that it pretty much doesn't matter if he really dined with Assange or not. It could very well be a bullshit story to explain how he got the info to try to impress Nunberg. But he got it ahead of time.

Also notable, Comrade Devin Nunes didn't even get any of this info before the House "investigation" was closed.

[Breccia]

Also notable, Comrade Devin Nunes didn't even get any of this info before the House "investigation" was closed.

The HIC's investigation closed with roughly half their witness list either refusing to answer, or just not showing up. For example, Bannon.

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Manafort's lawsuit to limit the scope of Mueller's investigation just got pimp-slapped.

U.S. District Judge Amy Berman questioned Manafort's attorney on the legal reasoning behind the former Trump aide's argument that Mueller's investigation has overstepped and should be shut down.

“I don’t really understand what is left of your case,” Berman reportedly told Manafort's attorney, Kevin Downing.

Manafort's civil lawsuit relies in part on a law called the Administrative Procedure Act, which dictates how federal agencies write regulations. Manafort claims that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein's order last year appointing Mueller violated Justice Department policies.

He also claims that Mueller does not have the authority to investigate allegations that predate his time on Trump's campaign.

Mueller's team in a filing on Monday rebutted Manafort and asked the court to dismiss his lawsuit, saying it "lacks merit."

"None of the authorities Manafort cites justifies dismissing an indictment signed by a duly appointed Department of Justice prosecutor based on an asserted regulatory violation, and none calls into question the jurisdiction of this court," the special counsel's office wrote.

In a heavily redacted memo also filed Monday, the special counsel's office revealed that Rosenstein explicitly gave Mueller the authority to investigate Manafort's Ukraine work, along with whether he "committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials" during the 2016 presidential race.

Bolded for "upside the head".

[NYC17]

The HIC's investigation closed with roughly half their witness list either refusing to answer, or just not showing up. For example, Bannon.

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Manafort's lawsuit to limit the scope of Mueller's investigation just got pimp-slapped.



Bolded for "upside the head".

I eagerly await Dacien's reentry into the discussion in which he uses McCarthy's half-assed analysis and guessing games to show why this memo will be the end of the Mueller investigation. If you haven't read it, it's a great exercise in "I was right all along". In fact this is a direct quote from his latest propaganda piece...

"So . . . was I wrong? No, I was right."


Compelling stuff.

[Dacien]

I eagerly await Dacien's reentry into the discussion in which he uses McCarthy's half-assed analysis and guessing games to show why this memo will be the end of the Mueller investigation. If you haven't read it, it's a great exercise in "I was right all along". In fact this is a direct quote from his latest propaganda piece...

"So . . . was I wrong? No, I was right."


Compelling stuff.

It actually was very compelling. Very detailed analysis I've come to expect from McCarthy, I'm not being funny here. I do think he is correct when he used that phrase above, he lays out the timeline quite well, but that's far from what that article was all about.

Nothing contained within the article could be used to claim the end of the Mueller investigation, but it was very informative.

[Stormspark]

Not directly, no. Good post.

Relevant: 30 days and $20,000 is basically nothing. van der Zwaan must have given Mueller something useful.

This reminds me of that old joke about the 2 guys who encounter a tiger while on safari. One of the guys starts lacing his shoes up. The other guy says "What the hell are you doing?" "I'm going to run." "That's crazy, we can't outrun the tiger!" "I don't have to outrun the tiger, I just have to outrun you!"

[Bullettime]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/04/polit...chs/index.html

Buckle up boys. Manafort, Gates, and van der Zwaan all had direct connections with certain oligarchs. And if Mueller had the authority to question them and go through electronic devices, there's a connection.

[Breccia]

And if Mueller had the authority to question them and go through electronic devices, there's a connection.

Yep, that's a third person stopped at the airport.

[Bullettime]

Yep, that's a third person stopped at the airport.

A third person but this time it's an unnamed Russian oligarch. A second oligarch was also stopped but no details if his electronic devices were confiscated and person searched like the other one was.

[Breccia]

Man, the UAE is really in the news these days. Turns out, Nader ALSO has Russian connections!

[Dacien]

Threatening legal fight, Nunes demands document that kicked off FBI Trump-Russia investigation

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., has sent a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray demanding an uncensored copy of the document the bureau used to formally begin its investigation into alleged collusion between Russia and Trump's presidential campaign.

The originating document has been the subject of much controversy. After some Republicans alleged that the FBI used never-verified parts of the Trump dossier as part of its reason to begin the investigation in July 2016, some "current and former" officials leaked to the New York Times that no, it was the case of George Papadopoulos, reported to U.S. authorities by foreign intelligence agents, that prompted the FBI investigation.

Nevertheless, Nunes has wanted to see the originating document, referred to as an Electronic Communication, or EC. In the new letter to Rosenstein and Wray, Nunes outlines the steps he has taken to see it, so far without success.

The letter, and the demands, are following a now-familiar pattern: Hill Republicans demand information on the Trump-Russia investigation, and the FBI and Justice Department don't give it to them. Many deadlines have been set and ignored; the question now is whether this is just another one.

This has been a theme that has long been known, most memorably suspicions about the request by the DOJ to review the Nunes memo before release, i.e, request a thing, proceed to drag feet on said thing.

At least in that case there was power to hand-wave them off.

[Breccia]

Didn't Nunes recuse himself? Because that doesn't look like recusing himself.

[Shadowferal]

Nunes has already thrown his lot in with Trump...He's digging for info. And the Justice Dept already know his shit...and probably just waiting (and hoping) for Mueller to sign off on his indictment soon.

[Stormspark]

Nunes has already thrown his lot in with Trump...He's digging for info. And the Justice Dept already know his shit...and probably just waiting (and hoping) for Mueller to sign off on his indictment soon.

It's because he's guilty and knows it. So he's just screaming on his way down. Mueller has some more indictments coming, hopefully he's on the list.

[Breccia]

Okay, we've seen a LOT of developments over the last few days. This doesn't seem Mueller's style at all, but...what are the odds one of the "we have Russian information" stories is a bluff? Just to scare Team Trump into cooperating?

[Stormspark]

Okay, we've seen a LOT of developments over the last few days. This doesn't seem Mueller's style at all, but...what are the odds one of the "we have Russian information" stories is a bluff? Just to scare Team Trump into cooperating?

I don't know...the thing is, I don't think Mueller NEEDS to bluff. I think he's getting enough to nail everyone to the wall.