Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

[Theodarzna]

What kind of guilty man fights investigations into his administration every chance he gets? Shouldn't he just let the investigation proceed if he has nothing to worry about? Also, what's up with all of these people he's surrounded himself with being embattled with scandals and and sentenced to prison? What about the 20+ indictments, including nearly a dozen Russians?

You deniers keep getting told by Trump that 2+2=5, and your only response is "yup, the math checks out".

One who knows the investigation exists to harass him until the find whatever they can? Even if it has nothing to do with the original accusations?

I mean should all people be subject to such a form of investigation, just some panel of people who make one accusation but then probe every single bit of your life to find ANYTHING to go after you for, and if that doesn't work "Hey, you obstructed justice!"

[Daelak]

Exactly, he wasn't accused of that, yet we are told both by people on this forum and people in the media that its all part of the vast Russian conspiracy against Hillary Clinton

As for Trump being guilty, there isn't evidence, but throwing obstruction of justice after failing to find proof of anything would be a hilarious vindication of the man. A final proof that Mueller was nothing more than a Witch hunt, an indictment just searching for an excuse to be executed.

It's not the media, it's the senate intelligence panel and the entirety of our intelligence community.

[Arvei]

One who knows the investigation exists to harass him until the find whatever they can? Even if it has nothing to do with the original accusations?

I mean should all people be subject to such a form of investigation, just some panel of people who make one accusation but then probe every single bit of your life to find ANYTHING to go after you for, and if that doesn't work "Hey, you obstructed justice!"

So now investigations are harassment? Interesting distortion of reality. The reason these accusations exist is because there's enough support, both from the public, and people whose job it is to investigate.

[Theodarzna]

So now investigations are harassment? Interesting distortion of reality. The reason these accusations exist is that there's enough support, both from the public, and people whose job it is to investigate.

I think it is at this point. If it's got something it should use it, if not then it should wrap up. I mean is it just a perpetual investigation? Will it last for 4-8 years? The duration of Trumps lifetime? What are the limits of this thing?

[Dontrike]

Exactly, he wasn't accused of that, yet we are told both by people on this forum and people in the media that its all part of the vast Russian conspiracy against Hillary Clinton

No, no one is saying results were changed. You can stop that nonsense.

As for Trump being guilty, there isn't evidence, but throwing obstruction of justice after failing to find proof of anything would be a hilarious vindication of the man. A final proof that Mueller was nothing more than a Witch hunt, an indictment just searching for an excuse to be executed.

There's plenty of evidence for collusion, but there's no proof. Again, you are asking for proof.

As for "witch hunt" there seems to be a lot of witches in this one, so much so that every time they find one Trump has to say how little they meant to the campaign or presidency, even though one of them was literally running his campaign.

[Elegiac]

I think it is at this point. If it's got something it should use it, if not then it should wrap up. I mean is it just a perpetual investigation? Will it last for 4-8 years? The duration of Trumps lifetime? What are the limits of this thing?

Yes, please do regale us with your knowledge of federal investigations and how long they "should" last.

[Theodarzna]

It's not the media, it's the Senate intelligence panel and the entirety of our intelligence community.

Yeah, those *trustworthy* CIA and FBI officials, the later of the two whom have publically had their impartiality put into question by the leaks of communications among the staff.

[Dontrike]

I think it is at this point. If it's got something it should use it, if not then it should wrap up. I mean is it just a perpetual investigation? Will it last for 4-8 years? The duration of Trumps lifetime? What are the limits of this thing?

You do understand this stuff takes years, right? Investigations aren't over in the span of a Law & Order episode.

[Elegiac]

Yeah, those *trustworthy* CIA and FBI officials, the later of the two whom have publically had their impartiality put into question by the leaks of communications among the staff.

Ha, ha.

"Some people sent some mean texts about Trump so that means the CIA and FBI aren't impartial."

[Kujako]

I think it is at this point. If it's got something it should use it, if not then it should wrap up. I mean is it just a perpetual investigation? Will it last for 4-8 years? The duration of Trumps lifetime? What are the limits of this thing?

Watergate was two years, as was the Clinton investigation. But there are no statute of limitations on this kind of thing. You don't just stop after a time limit is reached.

[Dontrike]

Yeah, those *trustworthy* CIA and FBI officials, the later of the two whom have publically had their impartiality put into question by the leaks of communications among the staff.

You mean two random people that were fucking and had their own opinions? Oh now! Save us from the opinions!

That right there is a real nothing sandwich.

[Kujako]

Ha, ha.

"Some people sent some mean texts about Trump so that means the CIA and FBI aren't impartial."

Or more insidious, "all law enforcement must be loyal to Trump above the law!".

[Theodarzna]

No, no one is saying results were changed. You can stop that nonsense.

There's plenty of evidence for collusion, but there's no proof. Again, you are asking for proof.

As for "witch hunt" there seems to be a lot of witches in this one, so much so that every time they find one Trump has to say how little they meant to the campaign or presidency, even though one of them was literally running his campaign.

If you had evidence, you'd have busted him by now. You've got nothing but are determined to find anything, even if it has nothing to do with what increasingly looks like a paranoid fanfiction concocted by Eric Garland and Louise Mensch.

[Elegiac]

If you had evidence, you'd have busted him by now. You've got nothing but are determined to find anything, even if it has nothing to do with what increasingly looks like a paranoid fanfiction concocted by Eric Garland and Louise Mensch.

Paranoid fanfiction, you say?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...erful-spy-tool

In case anyone had any illusions about Miss Theo's honesty.

[Dontrike]

If you had evidence, you'd have busted him by now. You've got nothing but are determined to find anything, even if it has nothing to do with what increasingly looks like a paranoid fanfiction concocted by Eric Garland and Louise Mensch.

Why do you keep saying "you" like I'm part of the investigation? If Mueller finds that Trump didn't do anything then that's that and I can accept that because I'm a functioning adult that doesn't fly off the handle like an orange child and Mueller does everything by the book, but I wonder what will happen to your tiny world if Trump is found guilty of anything.

[Belize]

If you had evidence, you'd have busted him by now. You've got nothing but are determined to find anything, even if it has nothing to do with what increasingly looks like a paranoid fanfiction concocted by Eric Garland and Louise Mensch.

And here it is, the typical "WiTcH hUnT" of all Trump Supporters, their last line of defense after all of their bullshit walls crumbled.

Pathetic.

[Elegiac]

And here it is, the typical "WiTcH hUnT" of all Trump Supporters, their last line of defense after all of their bullshit walls crumbled.

Pathetic.

Thanks to Benghazi, the precedent has been set that it's totally okay to run investigations ad infinitum.

[Arvei]

Thanks to Benghazi, the precedent has been set that it's totally okay to run investigations ad infinitum.

For the GOP and their base it's all about the projection. They had zero complaints about the feckless investigations into Hillary, but so-help-them-god if one of those demoncrats touches our Orange God!

[Daelak]

Yeah, those *trustworthy* CIA and FBI officials, the later of the two whom have publically had their impartiality put into question by the leaks of communications among the staff.

Right, I am supposed to believe that the private texts of two agents somehow proves departmental corruption? Let me know how that is going for you.

[Thekri]

If you had evidence, you'd have busted him by now. You've got nothing but are determined to find anything, even if it has nothing to do with what increasingly looks like a paranoid fanfiction concocted by Eric Garland and Louise Mensch.

The same argument we have been hearing for more then a year now. But here is the really terrifying thing about it, we have so much evidence that is open and available, that there is very little that will shock your sensibilities at this point. Remember when Trump called on Russia to release Hillary's hacked emails during the campaign? Remember when Don Jr said he met with the Russians looking for dirt on Clinton? Remember when Trump said he fired Comey because of "That Russia thing"? Remember when he told the Russians he "fired that nutjob" and "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off"? Remember when he hired a law firm to send a letter to the senate judiciary committee saying that he had no connections with Russia... except the law firm he hired to review his tax records and then make this statement was itself the Russian Law Firm of the year for 2016? Remember how just this week Giuliani admitted that Trump asked Comey to "Give Flynn a break" right before he fired him?


The evidence is already in front of you, there are new stories every day that should send off alarm bells. Just today Guiliani admitted to the Post that he still has clients in the Ukraine (Which is loaded with Russian front men) while working for Trump... in addition to an Iranian exile organization that the US long considered a terrorist organization. But no alarm bells ever go off for you, nothing ever shakes your faith in him. You remain blind and faithful, admirable qualities in a religion I suppose, but incredibily dangerous in politics.