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    Mueller does have the jurisdiction. It's just against DoJ policy, and the evidence for collusion doesn't meet the standard of proof of, "beyond a reasonable doubt
    Which ends the matter there and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Oh, for sure. That's all there is, but of course everyone, and I do mean everyone, is jumping to conclusions right now. We will have to wait and see and normally we should trust someone in Barr's position is unfortunately not happening given his track record.

    Like you and I have said, have to wait for the report, and hopefully it is released with near all or all of it unredacted.
    One way or another that report will get out with no redactions. Everyone in D.C. seems to be pretending that there is one paper copy of the report and that there aren't copies of it sitting around on laptops and on printers. That's just dumb. It absolutely will get leaked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheramoreIsTheBomb View Post
    And your point? Money wasted on a useless investigation.
    Did you complain about the Hillary email and Benghazi investigations as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    Your words

    , perjured himself
    If it ever makes it to court this summary would be presented as evidence and he would be forced to explain himself. Don't get stuck up on a word in order to avoid my question.

    What does that have to do with Barr quoting Muellers report, a few times throughout his summary? And why do you believe Barr is lying about quoting from the Mueller report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    No he wasnt
    My bad. I should have said: He tried to cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    All those millions of $dollars wasted on this investigation.

    Might as well piled all that money up and put a match to it.
    are guilty pleas, indictments and jail time a waste of money? wtf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidestorm View Post
    Seems you Lefties just got a dose of reality.

    A tough pill to swallow, I know, given that you live in a pile of your own delusions.
    Not really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    All those millions of $dollars wasted on this investigation.

    Might as well piled all that money up and put a match to it.
    the investigation made money. don't be daft.

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    If it ever makes it to court this summary would be presented as evidence and he would be forced to explain himself.
    Or not.

    My point is that you cannot say he "perjured himself" and perjury refers to testimony under oath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyc View Post
    If it ever makes it to court this summary would be presented as evidence and he would be forced to explain himself. Don't get stuck up on a word in order to avoid my question.

    What does that have to do with Barr quoting Muellers report, a few times throughout his summary? And why do you believe Barr is lying about quoting from the Mueller report?
    And that's why the house wants to get Barr under oath. and to release the full report. To get him on the record, and facing perjury charges if he lies.
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  10. #17170
    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    And found

    NOTHING.
    Except 37 indictments and a ton of guilty pleas and made money during the investigation, yep, totally found nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    All those millions of $dollars wasted on this investigation.

    Might as well piled all that money up and put a match to it.
    Jesus Christ dude, this is the second time I've brought up the fact, to you directly, via quote, that the Mueller investigation made a profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    All those millions of $dollars wasted on this investigation.

    Might as well piled all that money up and put a match to it.
    This investigation made a profit in seized assets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    NO collusion.

    THE END.
    Except it doesn't say that at all. We know they at least attempted to collude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Except it doesn't say that at all. We know they at least attempted to collude.
    We do?

    Look..I have things to do and I might see where this goes later.

    Bottom line

    Its over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    We do?

    Look..I have things to do and I might see where this goes later.

    Bottom line

    Its over.
    Not when there is 16 other investigations. And yes, we do, if we didn't have our heads shoved into the sand like you have. Trump Tower meeting, all the evidence we need for collusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    We do?

    Look..I have things to do and I might see where this goes later.

    Bottom line

    Its over.
    It's not.
    Demand a Full release, and if he's truly vindicated, gloat as you like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    Which ends the matter there and then.
    This is a really, really, weird thing to say. This is basically you saying that even if there's "clear and convincing" proof the president conspired with a foreign power to undermine our democracy, we shouldn't do anything about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rudol Von Stroheim View Post
    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonKing View Post
    What does the bolded have to do with the Democrats in the House or the Senate? SDNY is handled by the state of New York, so I don't see how them pursuing charges is going to do anything to the Democrats at the federal level.
    What do you mean? What does SDNY have to do with the State of New York?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    All those millions of $dollars wasted on this investigation.

    Might as well piled all that money up and put a match to it.
    Once again, since you appear to be one of the ones that requires it to be spelled out to you: The investigation MADE a surplus of money from assets seized. The investigation in effect did not cost a dime and in fact added to the treasury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Yet, nothing came of it. But millions wasted in investigations and no indictments. Meanwhile we have several guilty pleas and several indictments that are still going through the courts.
    They would had indictments there too if they wouldn't give Clinton's underlings immunity.

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