Mega-Thread: Mueller investigation

[lockedout]

It hasn't, though.

Well the investigation is over. Eventually this thread will have run it's course.

[Breccia]

A political appointee is now denying the public release of the report.

It may be necessary to have Mueller testify directly. Simply put, not even Barr agrees with Trump that this completely absolves him of everything.

Plus, again, the damage so far is significant. Trump hired multiple Russian agents, illegally took Russian money, tried to conduct Russian business deals, and gave big benefits to Russia while fighting election security. The best the rabid fanbase got out of this is Trump didn't know how badly he was fucking up. They still have to explain why Trump was so insistent on, for example, meeting with Putin in private and then eating the notes, fighting sanctions for Russia flat-out trying to assassinate a guy, and handing over Israeli intel for free.

They're cheering that their guy isn't gutless, he's incompetent.

[Flarelaine]

Well the investigation is over. Eventually this thread will have run it's course.

Eventually. And then we open another one for the juicy ones SDNY is just starting. Yum.

[Kasierith]

Also worth noting Barr is refusing to release to the public or Congress Trump's written answer to Muller's questions.

Mueller is not going to go even the tiniest bit out of line. If he does, if he is shown to have any indiscretion beyond what was allowed in the investigation to begin with, Republicans will go on the warpath over it to the tune of "see, he's being biased by overstepping, how can we trust anything he's done?" It's why he publicly slammed down a staffer who demonstrated bias, because to do anything less would have compromised everything.

The only way that Mueller would possibly overstep and release parts publicly if there's a direct, absolute, black and white contradiction with the report, imo. There can be no room for conjecture as to his intentions.

[Breccia]

Eventually. And then we open another one for the juicy ones SDNY is just starting.

Yeah, Trump is likely going to regret putting his businesses in the spotlight. Already buildings are frantically pulling TRUMP signs off them to avoid the stench of corruption and failure. The investigation into, say, money laundering will continue.

[Flarelaine]

Mueller is not going to go even the tiniest bit out of line. If he does, if he is shown to have any indiscretion beyond what was allowed in the investigation to begin with, Republicans will go on the warpath over it to the tune of "see, he's being biased by overstepping, how can we trust anything he's done?" It's why he publicly slammed down a staffer who demonstrated bias, because to do anything less would have compromised everything.

The only way that Mueller would possibly overstep and release parts publicly if there's a direct, absolute, black and white contradiction with the report, imo. There can be no room for conjecture as to his intentions.

How about a House subpoena?

[kaelleria]

This is pretty relevant.
https://oversight.house.gov/news/pre...air-schiff-and

"It is unacceptable that, after Special Counsel Mueller spent 22 months meticulously uncovering this evidence, Attorney General Barr made a decision not to charge the President in under 48 hours. The Attorney General did so without even interviewing the President. His unsolicited, open memorandum to the Department of Justice, suggesting that the obstruction investigation was ‘fatally misconceived,’ calls into question his objectivity on this point in particular.

"Attorney General Barr states that the Special Counsel did not find evidence sufficient to establish beyond a reasonable doubt, for purposes of prosecution, that the Trump campaign conspired to join Russia’s election-related online disinformation and hacking and dissemination efforts, notwithstanding multiple offers from Russian-affiliated parties to assist the Trump campaign.

"Although we have confidence that Special Counsel Mueller made the right prosecutorial judgement in these two specific areas—notwithstanding the very public evidence of Trump campaign contact with and willingness to receive support from Russian agents—it will be vital for the country and the Congress to evaluate the full body of evidence collected by the Special Counsel, including all information gathered of a counterintelligence nature.

"The only information the Congress and the American people have received regarding this investigation is the Attorney General’s own work product. The Special Counsel’s Report should be allowed to speak for itself, and Congress must have the opportunity to evaluate the underlying evidence.

"These shortcomings in today’s letter are the very reason our nation has a system of separation of powers. We cannot simply rely on what may be a partisan interpretation of facts uncovered during the course of a 22-month review of possible wrongdoing by the President.

"The American people deserve to see the facts and judge the President’s actions for themselves.

"Earlier this month, the House passed a resolution calling for the release of the Special Counsel’s report by a vote of 420-0. The Attorney General must release the report and the underlying evidence in full, and appear before the House Judiciary Committee to answer our questions without delay."

[Breccia]

There is one person whose opinion matters the most, and he says the report should be made public.

Donald Trump.

Admittedly, Trump says a lot of things that aren't true. For example, he said he'd love to give an interview with Mueller. He said he had no business with Russia. But if Trump says "make the report public" then
A) make it public, or
B) go against the express desire of the man in charge, refuse to make it public, don't get fired for it, and by such verify that Trump doesn't want it public, because of all that stuff he did.

Those are the two options. Sorry. I don't make the rules.

[ohiostate124]

Eventually. And then we open another one for the juicy ones SDNY is just starting. Yum.

Surely that will be the end of Drumpf this time.

[Saucexorzski]

Surely that will be the end of Drumpf this time.

They need their 8 investigations too to make this a perfect mirror of the Hillary investigations.

[Independent voter]

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$12.3 million dollars for this investigation. Could've gave that money to NASA or the national parks.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...sting-updated/

[Flarelaine]

Surely that will be the end of Drumpf this time.

Meh, his end will be one cheeseburger too many. I don't like counting unhatched chickens. But I will still watch the struggle to unearth his many misdeeds.

[Kasierith]

How about a House subpoena?

Than he wouldn't be overstepping releasing the information as requested by the House.

[Hobb]

Well the investigation is over. Eventually this thread will have run it's course.

As will Trump's presidency come 2020.

[Somewhatconcerned]

It may be necessary to have Mueller testify directly. Simply put, not even Barr agrees with Trump that this completely absolves him of everything.

Plus, again, the damage so far is significant. Trump hired multiple Russian agents, illegally took Russian money, tried to conduct Russian business deals, and gave big benefits to Russia while fighting election security. The best the rabid fanbase got out of this is Trump didn't know how badly he was fucking up. They still have to explain why Trump was so insistent on, for example, meeting with Putin in private and then eating the notes, fighting sanctions for Russia flat-out trying to assassinate a guy, and handing over Israeli intel for free.

They're cheering that their guy isn't gutless, he's incompetent.

You really want to give Trump more ammunition?

It's over. Time to look at 2020.

[Sky High]

Surely that will be the end of Drumpf this time.

as soon as he's out of office, you betcha. and it's far from the only thing.

[lockedout]

Yeah, Trump is likely going to regret putting his businesses in the spotlight. Already buildings are frantically pulling TRUMP signs off them to avoid the stench of corruption and failure. The investigation into, say, money laundering will continue.

Trump rally yesterday in NYC

[kaelleria]

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$12.3 million dollars for this investigation. Could've gave that money to NASA or the national parks.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...sting-updated/

You mean the investigation that made money?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ts/2736507002/

[lockedout]

As will Trump's presidency come 2020.

Wishful thinking, won't happen though.

[ohiostate124]

as soon as he's out of office, you betcha. and it's far from the only thing.

Guess you have to keep hope alive at this point. I suppose that’s easier than admitting that you were wrong.