Blizzard disabled Census functionality today

[Cracked]

Looks like using Who list now requires player interaction so addons cannot do it automatically anymore.

Tbh on 1 hand I get it as it just makes the imbalance worse, but on the other hand it's pretty low to just conceal that information

[TwoMana]

Looks like using Who list now requires player interaction so addons cannot do it automatically anymore.

Tbh on 1 hand I get it as it just makes the imbalance worse, but on the other hand it's pretty low to just conceal that information

Probably because that information is wildly inaccurate and used to spin up wild forum conspiracies that people actually take seriously. A bit like getting Trump elected started as a SA troll.

[Kokolums]

People will just use Google trends or other things to discuss population, so if its an attempt to stop wow census concepts, its a stupid one.

[Vampyrr]

Looks like using Who list now requires player interaction so addons cannot do it automatically anymore.

Tbh on 1 hand I get it as it just makes the imbalance worse, but on the other hand it's pretty low to just conceal that information

Looks like who itself is broken, I tried to /who a guild and for an hour it attempted to search and failed

Timeout on result of 'guild' - retrying... over and over then it would finally do Result of "/who guild" and the list would be blank

[Firatha]

Looks like using Who list now requires player interaction so addons cannot do it automatically anymore.

Tbh on 1 hand I get it as it just makes the imbalance worse, but on the other hand it's pretty low to just conceal that information

They are not concealing anything its a shit addon that has never been accurate or useful and the only people that ever use it use to stir up shit on the forums this one and the offical forums.

People will just use Google trends or other things to discuss population, so if its an attempt to stop wow census concepts, its a stupid one.

I dout its the concept they are shutting down here its the implementation it was never very accurate because of its use of /who as its way to intake data.

[Cracked]

They are not concealing anything its a shit addon that has never been accurate or useful and the only people that ever use it use to stir up shit on the forums this one and the offical forums.

The addon itself does exactly what it advertises - it enumerates everyone on your faction online at the time of scan. Aggregates are inaccurate, but not useless.

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Looks like who itself is broken, I tried to /who a guild and for an hour it attempted to search and failed

Timeout on result of 'guild' - retrying... over and over then it would finally do Result of "/who guild" and the list would be blank

If you have Census enabled then it's constantly trying to do some /who and it times out your attempts. Disabled the addon and /who should work again normally.

[Kokolums]

They are not concealing anything its a shit addon that has never been accurate or useful and the only people that ever use it use to stir up shit on the forums this one and the offical forums.

Your attitude towards census is poor. Census should be allowed. By banning a real in-game census, they actually make your problem WORSE because they will rely on more sketchy data. But it won't ever stop. The only way to stop the speculation is to release the data.

[Firatha]

Your attitude towards census is poor. Census should be allowed. By banning a real in-game census, they actually make your problem WORSE because they will rely on more sketchy data. But it won't ever stop. The only way to stop the speculation is to release the data.

Read the 2nd part I directed at you I have no problem with the concept of us finding way to see the what the population plays as long as the info is accurate people treated the addons useing /who as accurate and have been waving it around as proof for all kinds of things.

[Shaetha]

Your attitude towards census is poor. Census should be allowed. By banning a real in-game census, they actually make your problem WORSE because they will rely on more sketchy data. But it won't ever stop. The only way to stop the speculation is to release the data.

I have no problem with an actual census, but the addons spam the server with information requests. It can't be good for stability.

[Aphrel]

Im gonna go ahead and guess that an addon doing hundreds of /who creates alot of work for the server.

[Cracked]

Im gonna go ahead and guess that an addon doing hundreds of /who creates alot of work for the server.

Doubtful, auction house alone will be an order of magnitude more data required to pull and transmit. It's a blip really.

[Kathranis]

Im gonna go ahead and guess that an addon doing hundreds of /who creates alot of work for the server.

Yeah. They've made adjustments to these sort of API calls in the past because they were putting unnecessary strain on the servers.

[Firatha]

Doubtful, auction house alone will be an order of magnitude more data required to pull and transmit. It's a blip really.

THey have already had to limit API calls for addons like this in the past but I but I dout thats the case here.

[Aphrel]

Doubtful, auction house alone will be an order of magnitude more data required to pull and transmit. It's a blip really.

Depends entirely on how these are coded. There was a blue post a while back about how at least in the early days of wow the /who command was responsible for alot of the server load issues due how it was coded back then.

How it works today i have no idea, but back then iirc the post said that everytime some did a /who the server did a request of every single player online to then compile into a list and return the hits.

[Alvito]

They have turned off add ons in the past that are constantly searching/inspecting people because of the strain it puts on the servers. That might have absolutely nothing to do with these add ons this time around. If they have to kill a few add ons for stable servers and to cut down on lag so be it.

[Lochton]

Probably because that information is wildly inaccurate and used to spin up wild forum conspiracies that people actually take seriously.

Honestly, it is just another vaccant number system. It cannot be support, confirmed or denied, and it ends up causing more distress for its faulty display of information.

[THEORACLE64]

Good - maybe it’ll stop the shit posting then.

[ellieg]

People understand how the addon works right? No one is claiming its 100% accurate. Even the websites have disclaimers on them. But with enough scans, it's a pretty good source of info. Not 100% accurate obviously but I'd say the general trends it presents are true. Might be 2.9 to 1 horde to ally ratio instead of the presented 3.1 horde to ally ratio but either way, that server is still horde dominated. Cant blame ppl for wanting to know the population of the server they're on, especially during the window of open xfers.

[tikcol]

Depends entirely on how these are coded. There was a blue post a while back about how at least in the early days of wow the /who command was responsible for alot of the server load issues due how it was coded back then.

How it works today i have no idea, but back then iirc the post said that everytime some did a /who the server did a request of every single player online to then compile into a list and return the hits.

It should be a call to the database regardless. They might have improved the search algorithm but at the end of the day constant requests to the server are bound to make an impact even if it's mininal

[Tekkommo]

Looks like who itself is broken, I tried to /who a guild and for an hour it attempted to search and failed

Timeout on result of 'guild' - retrying... over and over then it would finally do Result of "/who guild" and the list would be blank

If you use an outdated WIM (windows instant messenger) /who bugs out for you. Got the updated version from the website because Twitch didn't have it, and it fixed it.