World of Warcraft – Gameplay and Systems Deep Dive

[Sentynel]

Looks like Blizzard decided to burn WoW to the ground. I'm glad I got my $40 refund for the virtual ticket in time. Some people have been asking for WoW 2.0, and it looks like they're getting something like that.

I'm kind of glad. If the expansion had been about the Old Gods, I'd have bought it. This will give me a few years break from WoW to clean up my Steam queue.

K. Nobody's forcing you to play the game. Don't like it, don't play it. That simple.

[ComputerNerd]

What victor can be there between two player-controlled factions? That's just retarded.

For gameplay reasons there can't be.
And while the faction war is going back to the "war"craft theme I am not really sure how this lack of an external threat is going to work with raiding.

[Rukario]

Looks like Blizzard decided to burn WoW to the ground. I'm glad I got my $40 refund for the virtual ticket in time. Some people have been asking for WoW 2.0, and it looks like they're getting something like that.

I'm kind of glad. If the expansion had been about the Old Gods, I'd have bought it. This will give me a few years break from WoW to clean up my Steam queue.

They already said Azshara is coming, so yeah.

[Fuzzybacon1512]

K. Nobody's forcing you to play the game. Don't like it, don't play it. That simple.

He knows he already said that. Thanks for showing us it did matter to you.

[Nize]

^ This. I feel like this is saying. Get ready for a year long Argus raid boys and girls.

It does blow my mind that there were people around saying they'd release this on March/April. I disagree that it'll be a year long deal though. There seems to be A LOT less new systems in play than in the last 3 expansions of a lot of new additions (even Garrisons seemed resource-heavy). Familiarity will help them get it out quicker, like in September of 2018

[Uncle]

I think that expansion must be somekind of joke. This is, by far, the worst announcement ever. The story, the lore, the "allied races", none of those things have ANY sens at all ! They already tried a Alliance Vs Horde focused expansion in Mop, and ti didn't work, because that idea of war between both factions has NO meaning, in mean, what's wrong with you guy's? You really think you can AGAIN make an expansion heavily PvP based, while ALMOST every Wow player dislike Pvp? Where Pvp and faction war has absolutly no-sense since Warcraft 3?

Today, the Horde ONLY exist because the Alliance authorized it, because Varian did choose to let them a chance; and now, the new Horde leaders are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING Garrosh did.
Who the hell is writing the story? Christie Golden? How the hell will you deal with the second defeat of the Horde? (Yes, the Alliance will win, because the Alliance have always been more powerfull than the Horde, and i dislike the Alliance though), another "I let you another chance, again, but be carefull !" ?

The ONLY expansion you could create, was and Old Gods expansion, not this stupid retarded shit you dared show us, do you really want your community hates you? Do you really want to kill your game by making stupid decisions again and again? Well you are on the right way, because i can guaranty you that expansion will be a massive failure; probably not enought to plain kill Wow but remember: NO ONE has forgot Wod, NO ONE has forgiven you Wod, don't try to screw you community a second time, because this time, there will not be another chance.

Battle for Azeroth has the clear potential to replace and beat to the death Warlords of Draenor off the rank of worst expansion ever, and i am almost sure it will.

[Nize]

@Uncle To be fair, we don't know how this xpac ends. It can very well become an Old God xpac and the horde/alliance war just serves as a backdrop for the start of hte issues. Azshara is here. N Zoth is closeby.

[Tisane]

The voice integration for LFG runs sounds interesting Like sometimes it will be fun and other times there won't be anything but rage

[baskev]

All that instanced stuff is worrying me.
Please make the teleporting stop. The world is going to feel so small...

i am more afraid of that warzone stuff. It sounds like the main focus...and its sounds like pvp ...so forcing me to pvp now

[Eggroll]

Panel is over. No deep diving has occured....

[beaver1024]

I like how they say the scenarios are "role agnostic" when in reality it's DPS only, otherwise you'd kill things way to slow.

[Spiridon]

sap not work in combat - AI will use cheap cheats?

[darkest4]

Everything in this expansion just feels like a lazy reskin/rename... Artifact necks are just slightly tweaked artifact weapons without any of the cool weapon models. Subraces recolors of the normal races. Islands looks like the boring ass legion invasion 3 man scenarios with some randomness thrown in, meh. Feels like they put their B team on this and told them to just reskin the Legion systems and sent the good devs to work on a new game or something. Starting to wish Legion was just the last expansion and they went out with a bang and worked on a new MMO + Warcraft 4 or just WoW 2 with a new engine and what not. As is, if these are the type of reskin expansions we have to look forward to, WoW is going to die a slow and miserable death.

They made the best cinematic trailer ever. That's about it. Probably rushed the work on that early this time for the hype because they knew they had nothing compelling to show of the actual gameplay..

[teidden]

It does blow my mind that there were people around saying they'd release this on March/April. I disagree that it'll be a year long deal though. There seems to be A LOT less new systems in play than in the last 3 expansions of a lot of new additions (even Garrisons seemed resource-heavy). Familiarity will help them get it out quicker, like in September of 2018

Oh my. There is ton less in this upcoming xpac then in legion are you kidding me? There is barely anything new. Scenarios already in play, pvp is in play. Ok RTS version in game is new thats it. Lets see legion had

Massive class changes
Artifact system
WQ system
Order Halls
Class specific storing telling lore and questlines
Demon Hunter along with new class area
Professions overhaul
Wardrobe system


This xpac has crap compare to the very little i said here there ws much mroe at launch and at the announcemnt of legion then this crap.

[BarelyLegalBear]

I think that expansion must be somekind of joke. This is, by far, the worst announcement ever. The story, the lore, the "allied races", none of those things have ANY sens at all ! They already tried a Alliance Vs Horde focused expansion in Mop, and ti didn't work, because that idea of war between both factions has NO meaning, in mean, what's wrong with you guy's? You really think you can AGAIN make an expansion heavily PvP based, while ALMOST every Wow player dislike Pvp? Where Pvp and faction war has absolutly no-sense since Warcraft 3?

Today, the Horde ONLY exist because the Alliance authorized it, because Varian did choose to let them a chance; and now, the new Horde leaders are doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING Garrosh did.
Who the hell is writing the story? Christie Golden? How the hell will you deal with the second defeat of the Horde? (Yes, the Alliance will win, because the Alliance have always been more powerfull than the Horde, and i dislike the Alliance though), another "I let you another chance, again, but be carefull !" ?

The ONLY expansion you could create, was and Old Gods expansion, not this stupid retarded shit you dared show us, do you really want your community hates you? Do you really want to kill your game by making stupid decisions again and again? Well you are on the right way, because i can guaranty you that expansion will be a massive failure; probably not enought to plain kill Wow but remember: NO ONE has forgot Wod, NO ONE has forgiven you Wod, don't try to screw you community a second time, because this time, there will not be another chance.

Battle for Azeroth has the clear potential to replace and beat to the death Warlords of Draenor off the rank of worst expansion ever, and i am almost sure it will.

Now that you've played the expansion and all, what's your opinion on it? Oh wait, it's not out yet. Kind of hard to judge something when you haven't even played it.

[Phood]

I will admit that I usually am a Blizzard apologist, but this seems really, really bad. Like almost a "why-did-you-even-try-you're-just-embarrassing-yourself" bad. We've seen these amazing landscapes and traveled to all these worlds. Ya know, in retrospect WoD seemed like a xpack to get the character housing monkey off their back. This is looking like an xpack to get the vanilla server and sub-races off their back. We all know it didn't end well the last time.

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@Uncle To be fair, we don't know how this xpac ends. It can very well become an Old God xpac and the horde/alliance war just serves as a backdrop for the start of hte issues. Azshara is here. N Zoth is closeby.

If this is the case, they need to fire the entire PR team.

[Nize]

Oh my. There is ton less in this upcoming xpac then in legion are you kidding me? There is barely anything new. Scenarios already in play, pvp is in play. Ok RTS version in game is new thats it. Lets see legion had

Massive class changes
Artifact system
WQ system
Order Halls
Class specific storing telling lore and questlines
Demon Hunter along with new class area
Professions overhaul
Wardrobe system


This xpac has crap compare to the very little i said here there ws much mroe at launch and at the announcemnt of legion then this crap.

Um, that's what I said? Not sure why you quoted me and responded in a way that you disagreed when you were just reiterating and reinforcing my point.

[Jodmos]

Interesting paddle in the pool of gameplay and systems.

[Role Unknown]

People keep saying that this game wont be released til Sept. I wholeheartedly disagree....outside of The Heart of Azeroth, there is nothing new. Everything is just stuff already in the game, prettied up and repackaged as new. I'd say this expansion will be released in Spring.

[Jaronicity]

Not to mention resist gear and such. Wonder if they will tune bosses out of needing it.

That wouldn't be very "vanilla" of them to do that, would it now?