FCC to vote on scrapping Net Neutrality

[Mittens]

But it isn't throtteling anyone. The deal you showed is about data caps, NOT varying speed for different sites nor downright excluding sites. It has literally nothing to do with net neutrality.

Zero-rating and net neutrality are very much related. And keep up with the conversation, this is what I said:

Why would they? There is no difference between zero rating and ISPs throttling internet speed when it comes to promoting competition.

[Noradin]

Zero-rating and net neutrality are very much related.

In some cases, which is why said cases are addressed in the net neutrality rules.

[Mittens]

In some cases, which is why said cases are addressed in the net neutrality rules.

The regulation in question is whether or not zero rating is part of the default original packages. As long as its optional is fine under the eyes of the EU, that is how that Portuguese company got away with its zero rating packages and special benefits to big name apps who could've easily paid to be featured there.

[Slirith]

'The FCC Is Blocking a Law Enforcement Investigation Into Net Neutrality Comment Fraud'
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-investigation

Won't get away with that for very long lol

[Lahis]

Yeah, and none of it is a "bad deal" - the packages just gives you FREE data for the selected apps on top of your monthly cap.

What monthly cap?

[GennGreymane]

'The FCC Is Blocking a Law Enforcement Investigation Into Net Neutrality Comment Fraud'
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-investigation

Basically the FCC won't answer.

[Blade Wolf]

Nut Neutrality!

[unfilteredJW]

Nut Neutrality!

He's a giant bag of dick cancer.

[ati87]

It's essentially giving special benefits to a select few big name apps.

In the EU rules it clearly states that you need to allow every competitor for that specific segment the possibility of a zero data.

So for example you can't exclude HBO if you allow Netflix, so if you do spotify you also have to do pandora.

Only exception to this rule is if you stream from your own server.

EU has net neutrality rules (US doesn't), companies can offer something extra as long as it doesn't negatively effects the consumer. This also means that if your free netflix data hurts others then you are also breaking the rules.

[Adam Jensen]

'The FCC Is Blocking a Law Enforcement Investigation Into Net Neutrality Comment Fraud'
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/a...-investigation

"We've done nothing wrong, please don't look in the closet."

Ajit Pai and his two Republican comrades are such contemptible corrupt scumbags. Over 2 million fake comments on the FCC website, people who are DEAD have posted multiple times, people have found posts that were made in their names MULTIPLE TIMES, but the FCC is blocking the law.

[Lahis]

Most mobile phones subscriptions have a data limit - pretty sure that applies to Finland as well.

Nah, only one carrier has tried that bullshit here. Good thimg that is a carrier I will never touch.

[Santti]

Most mobile phones subscriptions have a data limit - pretty sure that applies to Finland as well.

I sure don't have a data limit, and I can't recall anyone who does.

[callipygoustp]

AWS is innovation... removing NN is an artificial way to generate revenue, without innovation. Removing NN is showing that lobbying is more cost effective than innovation.

Sadly, lost in the noise.

[rda]

Basically the FCC won't answer.

Why is he / she asking the FCC?

[Kiri]

Why is he / she asking the FCC?

Because the FCC is blocking the investigation as to how.

[rda]

Because the FCC is blocking the investigation as to how.

Isn't the page on the image produced by filling a form on a website which lets you use whatever credentials you want?

So, someone filled it with the name of the mom of the tweeter. OK. Why is she asking the FCC about it?

[wunksta]

Isn't the page on the image produced by filling a form on a website which lets you use whatever credentials you want?

So, someone filled it with the name of the mom of the tweeter. OK. Why is she asking the FCC about it?

Because it happened millions of times.

[rda]

Because it happened millions of times.

I repeat, why ask the FCC?

Are you aware that half of the comments were copy/pasted from a common source, by the way, and that this applies to both anti-NN and pro-NN comments? Ie, the comment with the topmost count (2.8 million) was pro-NN.

So, sites have been sending people to the FCC form, telling people what to write advocating either in favor of NN or otherwise. What does FCC have to do with it?

[wunksta]

I repeat, why ask the FCC?

Are you aware that half of the comments were copy/pasted from a common source, by the way, and that this applies to both anti-NN and pro-NN comments? Ie, the comment with the topmost count (2.8 million) was pro-NN.

So, sites have been sending people to the FCC form, telling people what to write advocating either in favor of NN or otherwise. What does FCC have to do with it?

Because they can provide records for the investigation. Clearly there were bots involved and that information needs to be passed along to law enforcement. Why refuse to help?

[Kiri]

Isn't the page on the image produced by filling a form on a website which lets you use whatever credentials you want?

So, someone filled it with the name of the mom of the tweeter. OK. Why is she asking the FCC about it?

Hmm, let me explain in a bit more detail.
Under the Administrative Procedures Act, the FCC is required to attain public input on their planned measure and 'seriously consider relevant comments' in their decision making. As such, the comments posted there under the falsified identity can be used at least to outweigh the strong influx of pro-net neutrality comments. The FCC ostensibly can assist in finding out who stole that identity (and might be using it for other means) but refuses to do so. The FCC was also remiss in creating a process that prevented identity theft such as this. Ajit Pai allowed for public opinion - that was explicitly supposed to mater - to be undermined and falsified, so asking him why he allowed for this to happen seems reasonable.