It's WAR Species 8472 vs The Borg

[Shiny212]

Germany wasnt facing the collective might of thousands of systems either. Your analogies are as shitty as your logic. You are basing your entire decision based on the fact you believe it is impossible for the Borg to have come up with anything on their own.

Hypotheticals kinda lose their purpose if you're to account for everything that "might" happen. We simply have no basis to think the Borg could possibly find a way to defeat species 8472 on their own. They were at their mercy and Voyager saved them. His analogy is accurate.

You think Admiral Janeway is from the 29th century? Have you seriously watched that episode?

I think he's confusing the future Borg episode or the episodes where the doctor gets his mobile emitter. Janeway is indeed not returning from the 29th century..she'd be long dead.

[King Shark]

Germany wasnt facing the collective might of thousands of systems either. Your analogies are as shitty as your logic. You are basing your entire decision based on the fact you believe it is impossible for the Borg to have come up with anything on their own.

My entire decision is based on the fact that between the two of them, only one side was destroying entire planets occupied by the other.

Since you're the one who brought up fucking Germany as a basis of comparison in the first place, you're stone throwing is coming up laughably short at the moment. Fact is, it's canon that The Borg was being wiped out by 8472, this was acknowledged by The fucking Borg themselves, and is the primary reason they aligned with Voyager to fight 8472 to begin with. Voyager of course being the only reason- the only fucking reason- The Borg even still exist.

You aren't good at this arguing shit; you should probably take another break from this thread.

[Doctor Amadeus]

How does that change anything?

It changes the narrative that The Fed didn’t need the Borg that’s what it changes. The large amount of Cheese you Conceded to the Federation and you’re still trying to gloss over the facts.

[Speaknoevil]

It is a miracle this thread is still going.

8472 > Borg

The modified nanoprobes were a convenient plot device and were a limited supply.

The 8472 had no "problems with the Hirogen" It was 1 wounded individual with a damaged ship being hunted by most of a spacefaring race.

This is like asking "lion VS baby gazelle" who wins in a fight?

[Doctor Amadeus]

You think Admiral Janeway is from the 29th century? Have you seriously watched that episode?

She is from the future is my point the device upgraded the Borg to 29th century technology it had to have that information somewhere to replicate it.

[Grimbold21]

It changes the narrative that The Fed didn’t need the Borg that’s what it changes. The large amount of Cheese you Conceded to the Federation and you’re still trying to gloss over the facts.

I have no idea what you're talking about...

[Doctor Amadeus]

It is a miracle this thread is still going.

8472 > Borg

The modified nanoprobes were a convenient plot device and were a limited supply.

The 8472 had no "problems with the Hirogen" It was 1 wounded individual with a damaged ship being hunted by most of a spacefaring race.

This is like asking "lion VS baby gazelle" who wins in a fight?

Yeah who injured it. The point is they were prey to another species themselves.

[Deleted]

It is a miracle this thread is still going.

8472 > Borg

The modified nanoprobes were a convenient plot device and were a limited supply.

The 8472 had no "problems with the Hirogen" It was 1 wounded individual with a damaged ship being hunted by most of a spacefaring race.

This is like asking "lion VS baby gazelle" who wins in a fight?

Rats vs a badly wounded lion would be more apt, even severely wounded and near death it still took on the Hirogen and it went out swinging.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I have no idea what you're talking about...

It was Borg technology and Janeway who contacted the Borg not the other way around for the survival of TheFeds.

[Speaknoevil]

Rats vs a badly wounded lion would be more apt, even severely wounded and near death it still took on the Hirogen and it went out swinging.

The analogy was referring to the initial question.

[Shiny212]

She is from the future is my point the device upgraded the Borg to 29th century technology it had to have that information somewhere to replicate it.

What device, what are you talking about? The Borg never assimilated the doctor or his emitter. And the episode where a lone borg becomes infused with it, voyager's tender care of the drone convinces him to not allow the collective to assimilate him. The Borg failed to acquire any future tech.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Rats vs a badly wounded lion would be more apt, even severely wounded and near death it still took on the Hirogen and it went out swinging.

It went out needing thefeds help too.

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What device, what are you talking about? The Borg never assimilated the doctor or his emitter. And the episode where a lone borg becomes infused with it, voyager's tender care of the drone convinces him to not allow the collective to assimilate him.

Yes the device that’s from the 29th century where it fabricated the Borg with.

[Shiny212]

It went out needing thefeds help too.

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Yes the device that’s from the 29th century where it fabricated the Borg with.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[Deleted]

She is from the future is my point the device upgraded the Borg to 29th century technology it had to have that information somewhere to replicate it.

No, Admiral Janeway did not use 29th century tech, she used tech she gathered on the 26 year journey back home. You are missing 400 years somewhere, Admiral Janeway was not near 500 years old when she took out the queen.

[Doctor Amadeus]

No, Admiral Janeway did not use 29th century tech, she used tech she gathered on the 26 year journey back home. You are missing 400 years somewhere, Admiral Janeway was not near 500 years old when she took out the queen.

Not the armor I’m talking about the doctors device. Janeway is just between the 24th and 29th

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Not the armor I’m talking about the doctors device. Janeway is just between the 24th and 29th

The doctors device was not borg tech and One was never a member of the collective.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Voyager Episode: One

The technology from The Doctors device used to fabricate the Borg was From The 29th century.

[Shiny212]

Not the armor I’m talking about the doctors device. Janeway is just between the 24th and 29th

Yes, the mobile emitter never got into the hands of the borg. The only episode you can be referring to is when a lone borg, severed from the collective is fused with the emitter. They try to assimilate him and his technology, but him being so advanced can adapt to any of their assimilation attempts and instead goes out in a blaze of glory, because he refuses to be part of their destructive quest.

The Borg never get 29th century tech.

[Doctor Amadeus]

The doctors device was not borg tech and One was never a member of the collective.

It didn’t get the chance it wasn’t Borg tech but the knowledge of from the tech is from the 29th century.

[Shiny212]

It didn’t get the chance it wasn’t Borg tech but the knowledge of from the tech is from the 29th century.

Yes the Doctor's mobile emitter is from the 29th century. But it never gets into the hands of the Borg. So what's your point?