What a f**cking day, at the NHS.

[Zan15]

I've not ever had that experience at an emergency room in America.

Here is a very interesting site.
https://projects.propublica.org/emergency/



Of course it depends on where you live, population, number of hospitals, time of day, day of week...etc etc...

a lot are very low, but some are also high.


https://www.piedmont.org/emergency-r...oom-wait-times

right now the wait times....

Piedmont Fayette
1255 Highway 54 West
Fayetteville, GA 30214
770-719-7000

192min *



Piedmont Newton
5126 Hospital Dr NE
Covington, GA 30014
770-786-7053

101min *



Piedmont Atlanta
1968 Peachtree Road NW
Atlanta, GA 30309
404-605-5000

155min *



http://www.ohsu.edu/health/emergency...hp?services=rt

Current Wait Times
Adult Wait Time:
5 hours 19 minutes

http://www.atlanticare.org/index.php/er-wait-times 108 min

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The last time I went to an ER, I showed up, gave the front desk my ID/insurance, and literally instantly I was in a private room talking to a doctor... Within a few minutes they had an IV in me and sedated me with some painkillers, I was just laying in there with the lights off taking a nap since the painkillers hit me hard (waiting for an ambulance to be available to take me to a specialist for my problem at another nearby hospital).

And I don't live in the middle of nowhere... I live in the city.

Perhaps you shouldn't generalize your experience as the experience for the entire US.

perhaps you have had less experience then most....and are quite lucky.

are you generalizing with your example? was the OP generalizing his situation and the followup poster whom i replied to about how that is a clear indication of the performance of socialized medicine?



https://projects.propublica.org/emergency/

[Celista]

Here is a very interesting site.
https://projects.propublica.org/emergency/



Of course it depends on where you live, population, number of hospitals, time of day, day of week...etc etc...

a lot are very low, but some are also high.


https://www.piedmont.org/emergency-r...oom-wait-times

right now the wait times....

Piedmont Fayette
1255 Highway 54 West
Fayetteville, GA 30214
770-719-7000

192min *



Piedmont Newton
5126 Hospital Dr NE
Covington, GA 30014
770-786-7053

101min *



Piedmont Atlanta
1968 Peachtree Road NW
Atlanta, GA 30309
404-605-5000

155min *



http://www.ohsu.edu/health/emergency...hp?services=rt

Current Wait Times
Adult Wait Time:
5 hours 19 minutes

http://www.atlanticare.org/index.php/er-wait-times 108 min

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perhaps you have had less experience then most....and are quite lucky.

are you generalizing with your example? was the OP generalizing his situation and the followup poster whom i replied to about how that is a clear indication of the performance of socialized medicine?



https://projects.propublica.org/emergency/

OHSU's wait times are crazy, but they're nowhere near the standard for the area. I was sent to the ER for x-rays by my physician (so a non-priority visit) and I waited an hour at Providence.

[Machismo]

I'm surprised people don't know how to deal with a dislocated shoulder themselves...

[Deleted]

I'm surprised people don't know how to deal with a dislocated shoulder themselves...

Fuck it up and you pinch the nerve and you cripple yourself for life, I suppose the action movies taught you to bash it against a wall.

[I Push Buttons]

perhaps you have had less experience then most....and are quite lucky.

are you generalizing with your example? was the OP generalizing his situation and the followup poster whom i replied to about how that is a clear indication of the performance of socialized medicine?

I never claimed my example was representative of the US, you did.

[Machismo]

Fuck it up and you pinch the nerve and you cripple yourself for life, I suppose the action movies taught you to bash it against a wall.

No, but Lethal Weapon was a great film.

[Deleted]

No, but Lethal Weapon was a great film.

Fuck yes it is.

[Zan15]

I never claimed my example was representative of the US, you did.

i did?
all i did was give the examples of my last 3 visits.


and in a follow up i listed a few ER's wait times.

and in another follow up i listed the ER wait times for all 50 states.



hardly using my example like you say

[Ozyorkbourne]

Dentists are not free...apointment with GP? good luck, more like grilled by receptionist and if you are lucky you can see nurse...consultant? sure next year...and nothing is free, we pay for it.

My dentist isn't free but having a wisdom tooth out - actual dental surgery, was.

I can call up any day at 8am and get a GP appointment at my doctors surgery across the road - i've actually never been unable to.

[Halyon]

So it was not an emergency and it was free? It may hurt like fuck but they can tell real quick if it is serious, you would not get faster emergency treatment by going private.

A dislocated shoulder may not re-set if it's left for too long... Goes for any dislocated limb like that. Granted, don't know how severely, but goddayum, they could have at least hooked him up with some painkillers...

[belfpala]

right now the wait times....

The wait times are skewed because the ER won't refuse anyone, so people with no other medical option show up there with minor cold symptoms, etc.

Everyone I know, including myself, who showed up with a serious condition has been seen promptly. And by serious, I mean the triage nurse assessed it to be life threatening. This has happened in multiple countries.

OP is just bait against actual socialized medicine. I doubt the story is even true.

[Deleted]

Dislocated my shoulder this morning, called an ambulance, they said, order a taxi as it was not an emergency. I did, finally in hospital, was sitting for around 3 hours to see a DR for 2 min, he told me, go do an x-ray, what do you know? Another 1 hour wait. Bare in mind my shoulder was still dislocated and the pain I was in I could not explain. I waited after the x ray I needed to rejoin the 3 hour queue again, what a nightmare. Fuck it, I am going private next time.

rant over.

thats Quick. i had to wait a few months ago for my sister to pick her up from a possible stroke. arrived at 7pm she had already been there a bit left at 3am. turns out was a paraletic migrane or something like that.

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hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

hope you are ok bro!

same but im glad it there. im glad that if the worst case if i had nothing left and needed medical attention then its free and available even if its slow nowadays (though it is a fair argument to point out its only been slow the past decade or so with the rise population and the reduction in funding).

private you pay for 5star service and that's an option. personally i feel if you can afford it or your company provides it you should use private to lessen the stress on the NHS. but it is my fundamental belief that a national health service that caters for people no matter there social standing or monetary worth from the day there born to the the day they die is part of the core of a civilised first world society.

[PosPosPos]

I rather pay then wait 7 hours with pain.

Ok, so here's what you should do:

1) Stop whining
2) Dislocate your arm again
3) Then go to a private emergency room and tell us how long you waited this time.

[Graeham]

It's unfortunate. The NHS is a truly incredible thing that deserves much more love and support - but many of its current problems are directly tied to some pretty complicated political issues. Even trying to get a regular appointment for a doctor's checkup can be a feat in itself depending on where one happens to live. There's just too much strain on the system. Privatisation and outsourcing of specific elements doesn't help, either.

[chazus]

How is it free when they take my tax money for this shit. I rather take that tax percentage and use it on a private healthcare of my choice. Men I never felt so crap as today.

Did it cost you 3-5K for that one thing? No?

[TirielWoW]

hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

hope you are ok bro!

Emergency gallbladder surgery without an ambulance ride totaled to more than $90,000 in hospital costs and doctor fees.

Still okay with paying for it? o_O

[Celista]

It's unfortunate. The NHS is a truly incredible thing that deserves much more love and support - but many of its current problems are directly tied to some pretty complicated political issues. Even trying to get a regular appointment for a doctor's checkup can be a feat in itself depending on where one happens to live. There's just too much strain on the system. Privatisation and outsourcing of specific elements doesn't help, either.

I think a large part of it is the generally unhealthy lifestyles in the Western world straining the system. NHS has more of a focus on preventative care than the US does, but our countries still have similar issues in regards to obesity rates and health factors related to poor diet/not enough exercise (whether at a healthy weight or not). Our modern lifestyles are not conducive to long term health.

[Graeham]

I think a large part of it is the generally unhealthy lifestyles in the Western world straining the system. NHS has more of a focus on preventative care than the US does, but our countries still have similar issues in regards to obesity rates and health factors related to poor diet/not enough exercise (whether at a healthy weight or not). Our modern lifestyles are not conducive to long term health.

Yeah, there's definitely a lot of people over here with unhealthy lifestyles...government cuts and excessive health and safety laws have made it more difficult for children to be 'sporty' though. I attended a sports academy myself and I'm naturally lean. I don't preach to people about changing their lifestyle but if they ask me for advice, I freely give it. Though most just go right back to their bad habits.

I've kind of become cynical, though. I know so many people who are around the same age as me but look a good ten to twenty years older as a result of so much alcohol and/or cigarettes. I don't blame them entirely, mind you - a poor education system and lack of proper regulation in regards to addictive substances is a large part of it all...but there's no easy solution.

[arandomuser]

that seems similar hospital here in US

[Kindahuge]

hm..... yet you see people rave at how good free healthcare is xD. Id rather pay than be stuck for hours waiting for some doctor to see me.

hope you are ok bro!

You see people rave because whiny bitches with dislocated shoulders (easy fix, btw) are made to wait while people with cancer, heart attacks, and actual injuries are being rushed to the front to be seen in order of severity.

The NHS has also been drastically defunded by the UK equivalent of cumsucking old fat Republicans, and this is why OP (still a whiny bitch nonetheless) had to wait several hours instead of roughly one single hour.

Anyway, stfu moron.