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    Terrorists on Trial: Demand a Jury of their Peers

    Interesting development in the Kansas Mosque and Refugee Bombing Plot. Should terrorists have the privilege of a peer jury? A trial can be won or lost during jury selection, would finding radicalized jurors subvert the whole process of a trial?


    Pro-Trump jurors sought by men charged in Kansas mosque bombing plot
    http://www.kansascity.com/news/local...189178604.html

    Three men accused of plotting to bomb a western Kansas mosque say their rights are being violated by the exclusion of jurors from more politically conservative areas.

    Attorney for the three men say in documents filed in federal court in Wichita that the jury selection procedure is discriminatory and “excludes rural and conservative jurors.”

    According to a motion filed by attorneys for defendant Curtis Wayne Allen, and joined by his co-defendants, Patrick Eugene Stein and Gavin Wayne Wright, jurors in their case will be picked from registered voters from Wichita and surrounding areas, and not from western Kansas.

    The three men are charged with conspiring to target Somali immigrants living in Garden City, Kan.

    When they announced the charges, officials alleged that Allen, Stein and Wright hoped to create a “bloodbath” by detonating vehicles laden with bombs the day after the Nov. 8 election.

    Voters in those areas of western Kansas are more likely to have conservative political views and are more likely to have supported Donald Trump in the 2016 election, according to the defense motion.

    “This case is uniquely political because much of the anticipated evidence will center around, and was in reaction to, the 2016 presidential election,” according to the defense motion.

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    if anything a jury should be made up of people with varying backgrounds, political leanings, etc

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    Peers doesn't mean fellow terrorist sympathizers. Dudes are a Bunch of dickwads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Peers doesn't mean fellow terrorist sympathizers. Dudes are a Bunch of dickwads
    Ya the original meaning of jury of peers, was a jury of fellow citizens. Not lords, officers yadda yadda.

    These Defense attorneys also argued the case will require jurors to weigh whether the alleged conduct constitutes a crime or whether it is constitutionally protected speech and assembly and the right to bear arms.... So making a bomb is protected by either the first or second amendment in their reasoning.

    I get the feeling these attorneys are reasoning in bad faith.

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    Fair enough. So long as their punishment is also in line with what their "peers" would hand out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Peers doesn't mean fellow terrorist sympathizers. Dudes are a Bunch of dickwads
    Your face is a bunch of dickwads.
    No offence.



    Infracted.
    Last edited by xskarma; 2017-12-12 at 10:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker76 View Post
    Ya the original meaning of jury of peers, was a jury of fellow citizens. Not lords, officers yadda yadda..
    Right. "Peers" means "fellow citizens" as opposed to governmental officers, members of the nobility or other people who would fall into a different "class" than the accused.

    But hey, stupid people are stupid.
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