So what do you think would happen if Trump fires Mueller?

[alexw]

Show me evidance tampering in this investigation.

He has none of course, its just another right wing conspiracy theory pushed by fake news outlets like Fox.

[Shadowmelded]

Anyway, Strzok is already being investigated and the investigation that brought up the texts in the first place was an investigation into the Clinton situation, trying to determine whether there was bias in any direction. Asking for -another- investigation seems redundant.

[NYC17]

Innocent until proven guilty and there's literally zero proof of guilt. Keep raising your expectations higher and higher, because it's going to make it more hilarious when nothing happens.

This did nothing to counter my statement.

Try again.

[Felya]

He has none of course, its just another right wing conspiracy theory pushed by fake news outlets like Fox.

I don’t even care about that. It’s a conspiracy theory. My issue is with the logical disconnect of...

‘I see no evidance in this investigation, but I see that it was tampered with.’

That is not lying or making shit up, that’s absolutely illogical.

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Innocent until proven guilty and there's literally zero proof of guilt. Keep raising your expectations higher and higher, because it's going to make it more hilarious when nothing happens.

Yo, @supertony51 this dude is looking for that evidance. Give him that stuff you claim was tampered with.

[alexw]

I don't think it would matter that much either way. Most of congress and the senate do not really care about prosecuting trump as long as they can get tax cuts for the rich and de-regulation. A lot of Americans will be outraged and protest but the trump regime will just spin it. I think that no matter how good the evidence is, he is going to get away with it. He will probably throw some people under the bus. I think he would do this even to his kids.

The problem is the midterms. If Trump kills the investigation and the republicans do nothing, then all democrats will run on restarting it and they'd win in an absolute landslide.

I can guarantee you there would be nothing more motivating to getting the democratic vote out than that. Plus the democratic party tickets would get the vast majority of the votes of moderates and independents too as a result.

They'd then reappoint Mueller and it would continue as before but this time with an utterly hostile congress in place to boot.

[Captain N]

I don’t even care about that. It’s a conspiracy theory. My issue is with the logical disconnect of...

‘I see no evidance in this investigation, but I see that it was tampered with.’

That is not lying or making shit up, that’s absolutely illogical.

Because what Mueller knows is damaging to their President and his Administration.

These were the same people who after numerous Benghazi investigations and an E-Mail investigation still claimed that there was something everyone somehow missed because it was doing damage to someone they disliked.

It has nothing to do with logic -- it has everything to do with cheerleading for their team regardless of facts and evidence.

[Warning]

These aren't 70s, don't get your hopes up too much. Back at 70s Trump would not be voted in to be a janitor in White House, let alone POTUS.

If Trump actually goes ahead and does it - he probably figured out that he can deal with it, just like with Comey, where there were such huge waves there and where is this thing now?

I think you're gravely underestimating what would happen. For one, in regards to Comey's firing you're way off, because the fallout from that monumental blunder is called Robert Mueller and he's far from dealt with. Second, you need look at the historical perspective, if the American people have been taught one thing about impeachment, it's that it happens under specific set of conditions: those of the Watergate scandal. Firing Robert Mueller would create those exact conditions and there would soon not be a person in America and probably most of the western world that would not be aware of that within 24 hours. You can expect protests not only in every state of America, but in major European cities as well.

[Felya]

Because what Mueller knows is damaging to their President and his Administration.

These were the same people who after numerous Benghazi investigations and an E-Mail investigation still claimed that there was something everyone somehow missed because it was doing damage to someone they disliked.

It has nothing to do with logic -- it has everything to do with cheerleading for their team regardless of facts and evidence.

I love the ‘we must investigate the investigation’... when said by controlling government, it’s such an obvious grab for power, that anyone arguing for it... will eventually fall into a trap of their own construction.

Like with most argument that rely on emotion... the key to breaking it, is to keep them talking. Not infracted or ban them... let them talk as much as possible. It’s easy to hit an emotional key on twitter... see what happens when more text is added.

[LaserSharkDFB]

While we're at it, can we investigate the people who ran the Benghazi investigations and make them pay back the money they wasted? Y'know, the people who straight-up admitted that they were doing it for political reasons?

[mvaliz]

@supertony51 is not reading the replies. He doesn’t care... this is just about his infatuation with Trump. People are asking him how exactly Pence is a liberal, to him replying with bitching that no one believes him. It’s insane...

Wait... when the hell did hey say that!? o_O

Seriously? Pence!?

He paints Mr. "Government-paid-electro-shock-therapy-and-pray-the-gay-away" Pence as a Liberal!?! o_O

Mike "people-pay-for-funerals-for-aborted-fetuses" Pence!?! o_O

Mike "I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican... in that order" Pence!? o_O

The man who the Traitor, Paul Manafort, single handedly chose and convinced Dumbass Dump to use as his VP instead of the fat man from New Jersey.

http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm
This guy!? o_O

[Theinquisition]

Wait... when the hell did hey say that!? o_O

Seriously? Pence!?

He paints Mr. "Government-paid-electro-shock-therapy-and-pray-the-gay-away" Pence as a Liberal!?! o_O

Mike "people-pay-for-funerals-for-aborted-fetuses" Pence!?! o_O

Mike "I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican... in that order" Pence!? o_O

The man who the Traitor, Paul Manafort, single handedly chose and convinced Dumbass Dump to use as his VP instead of the fat man from New Jersey.

http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm
This guy!? o_O

Lol, I never said anything about pence

[Taso]

Wait... when the hell did hey say that!? o_O

Seriously? Pence!?

He paints Mr. "Government-paid-electro-shock-therapy-and-pray-the-gay-away" Pence as a Liberal!?! o_O

Mike "people-pay-for-funerals-for-aborted-fetuses" Pence!?! o_O

Mike "I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican... in that order" Pence!? o_O

The man who the Traitor, Paul Manafort, single handedly chose and convinced Dumbass Dump to use as his VP instead of the fat man from New Jersey.

http://www.ontheissues.org/IN/Mike_Pence.htm
This guy!? o_O

Bare in mind pence was a democrat before he became republican. Just like regean just like trump just like Perot.
Idk what it is but Democrats when they turn conservative go bonkers for some reason. Save for Bloomberg.
The opposite is true when republicans go democrat. You get people like Elizabeth warren, Henry a Wallace etc..

[Shadowmelded]

While we're at it, can we investigate the people who ran the Benghazi investigations and make them pay back the money they wasted? Y'know, the people who straight-up admitted that they were doing it for political reasons?

Or, if neutral investigations are such a priority, at the very least kick the people who were involved in the Trump campaign off the House investigations, especially since Nunes was already caught interfering.

[Machismo]

I do love watching the "not" Trump supporters lining up to defend the guy. If Trump fires Mueller, I hope Trump gets impeached immediately. He will go down as one of the five worst presidents in history, no doubt about it. The GOP would collapse, and the Dems would make huge political gains in 2018.

[Garnier Fructis]

Personally, I'd go join protests. I stayed at work for all of the past protests because I have a duty to my students. But this would be going too far. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't protest a sitting President declaring him and his administration above the rule of law.

Well, given some of the recent revelations regarding the possible abuse of position and authority of a few of the investigators, I don't think it's entirely inappropriate to either restart the investigation with a new team, or at a minimum place someone else at the head of the investigation.

When you have strong circumstantial evidence that a lead investigator in the case misused authority to deflect criminal charges on hillary clinton, and has texted other members of the fbi on how they can "protect" the American people from Donald Trump, objectivity is questionable.

What the hell is Mueller expected to do about it?

Fire the guy again? Seriously, the drive over the last few weeks to cast a responsible action as a sign of irresponsibility is some of the dumbest shit.

[LaserSharkDFB]

What the hell is Mueller expected to do about it?

Fire the guy again? Seriously, the drive over the last few weeks to cast a responsible action as a sign of irresponsibility is some of the dumbest shit.

I mean, *at worst* they would have to reevaluate whatever reports or evidence the guy had been working with. His bias does not necessarily mean that he was wrong. In any case, it has nothing to do with Mueller, apart from Mueller hiring the guy. And if we want to start holding the guy at the top responsible for bad employees, Trump should *really* be worried.

[Theinquisition]

Personally, I'd go join protests. I stayed at work for all of the past protests because I have a duty to my students. But this would be going too far. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I didn't protest a sitting President declaring him and his administration above the rule of law.



What the hell is Mueller expected to do about it?

Fire the guy again? Seriously, the drive over the last few weeks to cast a responsible action as a sign of irresponsibility is some of the dumbest shit.

Im sure the gender studies class will survive without you for a day.

Im.glad mueller fired the guy, all im.sayimg is that if like to see the investigation restarted from scratch to avoid even a hit of corruption.

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I mean, *at worst* they would have to reevaluate whatever reports or evidence the guy had been working with. His bias does not necessarily mean that he was wrong. In any case, it has nothing to do with Mueller, apart from Mueller hiring the guy. And if we want to start holding the guy at the top responsible for bad employees, Trump should *really* be worried.

Cool, so.we can agree that the reports and work.done by that agent should be reevaluated?

[Dontrike]

Nothing. The world keeps turning. Mueller nor any of his team have any evidence that Trump is guilty of a crime.

If Trump isn't guilty of anything why exactly is he trying so hard to stop it?

[Garnier Fructis]

Im sure the gender studies class will survive without you for a day.

Im.glad mueller fired the guy, all im.sayimg is that if like to see the investigation restarted from scratch to avoid even a hit of corruption.

Mathematics, actually. Specifically calculus. And mostly engineering students, to boot. Which means that as far as instruction goes, I'm teaching the classes that are 'most useful' to the economy.

But good job assuming.

[Theinquisition]

Guys, hes done it. He worked "koolaid" into the conversation, it's clear he knows what he is talking about. No need to even investigate anymore.

This coming from.a packers fan. Go.pray to the alter of Brett Favre cheese head.