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    Is this what socialists want?

    Let me preface this with saying yes the video is a couple years old but pretty sure it's still a good indicator of what socialists want out of society. Am I correct? Would really love to hear from some of the socialists on this site.

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    It's a good indication of an incredibly stupid person. Not socialism.

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    Only one thing to say about this:

    “The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.

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    taxes to pay for higher education?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFuu View Post
    It's a good indication of an incredibly stupid person. Not socialism.
    The issue is, its the kind of person Socialism tends to attract. Young naive Idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    taxes to pay for higher education?
    Sadly, these are the sorts of people who don't want taxes paying for basic education in the first place. Why would they care about giving people a better chance at a solid career through higher education?

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    So.... you mean taxes? Because I think socialist are a bit more left-wing than just free education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    The issue is, its the kind of person Socialism tends to attract. Young naive Idiots.
    Nah, that neo-liberalism

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    It is long known that those within socialists groups only care about redistribution as long as it doesn't come from their pocket and that redistribution is solely focused on a special interest group they form part of. Just look at how much people lashed out when Republicans dared to propose that SALT deductions be capped at 10k.
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    I don't know what kind of group I belong to because I keep hearing that being left leaning automatically makes me want this or that when in reality I want none of the fuckery I see going on. Just because some fucking morons get a spot on TV and spout some shit doesn't mean everyone that can possibly be branded as being a member of that group wants it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    So.... you mean taxes? Because I think socialist are a bit more left-wing than just free education.

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    Nah, that neo-liberalism
    *looks at r/latestagecapitalism

    Suuuure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFuu View Post
    It's a good indication of an incredibly stupid person. Not socialism.
    Sorry what's the difference?
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mittens View Post
    *looks at r/latestagecapitalism

    Suuuure.
    One of the biggest problems with reddit is the same thing that happens on 4chan. All the subs end up with very polarized cultures.

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    The rich just got a big tax cut so I don't think they are going to pay for anything anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    The issue is, its the kind of person Socialism tends to attract. Young naive Idiots.
    Both sides attract young naive idiots. Her version of "free college" is the same ideal a lot of these never been in the real world idiots. Getting made to look like a fool on national television hopefully helped her to wise up to the real world. Chances are not though, it just further demonized conservatism to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the game View Post
    Let me preface this with saying yes the video is a couple years old but pretty sure it's still a good indicator of what socialists want out of society. Am I correct? Would really love to hear from some of the socialists on this site.

    Wait hold up. You're using a 2 year old broadcast of an interview from Fox, in which this poor college student was ambushed for her quasi-flawed/incomplete thought process, to do what exactly? Demonstrate that socialism is a bad idea?

    Not really taking sides on this because I don't believe democracy can exist without capitalism. But to combat this equally shaky argument you've constructed, one could fire back with a simplistic model for capitalism.



    The game where one person ends up with all the wealth, and everyone else ends up in the poor house. Yay, capitalism!

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    Not even going to bother with the video but there is nothing wrong with society paying for a free college education. The united States needs this badly more than any other country we have a lot of people that are going to be displaced by technology they need to get new degrees. These coal miners, taxi drivers etc can be re-educated to have more secure jobs for themselves and their family. The question of what type of degrees and college should be paid for is a legitimate one but laughing at the concept of a free college education or job training shows how short sighted some people have become.

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    That video is two years old and indeed old news. A singular person's opinion poorly expressed is not indicative of an historical philosophy &/or political system.

    If however you are asking does socialism wish for education to be freely available to all citizens; yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Why Am I Here View Post
    I don't know what kind of group I belong to because I keep hearing that being left leaning automatically makes me want this or that when in reality I want none of the fuckery I see going on. Just because some fucking morons get a spot on TV and spout some shit doesn't mean everyone that can possibly be branded as being a member of that group wants it.
    Right wingers are generally a hive mind that rarely deviate from their positions and are cult like in their devotion to their principles so naturally they assume that people on the left are the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Why Am I Here View Post
    I don't know what kind of group I belong to because I keep hearing that being left leaning automatically makes me want this or that when in reality I want none of the fuckery I see going on. Just because some fucking morons get a spot on TV and spout some shit doesn't mean everyone that can possibly be branded as being a member of that group wants it.
    Thats what Fox breitbart ect does so well find the most ridiculous and extreme examples of something and then point "see see" they are all like this.

    Should also note these examples tend to be of random youtube, twitter, ect people that have little to no followers let alone political capital. On the other hand the "fake news" quotes Trump, republicans, or people of authority/influence for sound bits of stupid.
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    Socialists want people who own a greater proportion of the wealth to pay a greater proportion of the tax to keep money flowing through society and keeping the economy moving instead of investing and saving it all for decades and grinding everything to a halt.

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