If your business can't function without underpaying employees it shouldnt exist

[Deleted]

I mean it sounds like a "duh" but there actually are some people that believe its ok to pay young recruits with "experience" cause they're too lazy to come up with a solid plan or just plain greedy.

Don't give me the free market nutter bs, if you work 35h/week or whatever duration is your legal standard you should be paid a decent living wage regardless of the nature of the job.

[Mistame]

So you're just shit posting for the sake of it? You made a claim and dismiss any arguments in the same sentence. Bulb's a bit dim, eh?

Also, not every job justifies what some people would call a "living wage". Employers determine that value of their laborers, not the laborers.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Kurata

This is one of the first times I will 100% agree with you, perfectly summed it up.

[bladeXcrasher]

I mean it sounds like a "duh" but there actually are some people that believe its ok to pay young recruits with "experience" cause they're too lazy to come up with a solid plan or just plain greedy.

Don't give me the free market nutter bs, if you work 35h/week or whatever duration is your legal standard you should be paid a decent living wage regardless of the nature of the job.

I work 40 hours a week and make more than enough to live comfortably, care to provide examples or are you just trying to implement your next ban in short order?

[Nihilist74]

Best way to raise wages is for people to stop having children. This raises the demand for workers because there is less people to fill the positions. The employers have to pay more and offer better benefits. In the time of the black plague, the plague killed 30%? of the population. The pay for common workers skyrocketed because there were fewer of them.

They want us to breed ourselves into slavery.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...pulation-panic

[Spectral]

The term "underpaid" is subjective and I give zero shits what a communist's subjective opinion on the matter is. Why should anyone treat you as an honest interlocutor when it comes to market-based systems in capitalist nations?

[Deleted]

I mean it sounds like a "duh" but there actually are some people that believe its ok to pay young recruits with "experience" cause they're too lazy to come up with a solid plan or just plain greedy.

Don't give me the free market nutter bs, if you work 35h/week or whatever duration is your legal standard you should be paid a decent living wage regardless of the nature of the job.

What if those recuits arent skilled enough to actually make the company money yet?

[Gestopft]

Employers determine that value of their laborers, not the laborers.

Which is why negotiations are skewed in favor of employers (that have an incentive to pay as little as they can).

Maybe a better way to ask the question of the OP is "why should taxpayers have to subsidize low-wage workers?"

[Machismo]

Well, it looks like someone is out to kill capitalists for Christmas.

I'm just waiting for the OP to call for violence and murder to all those who don't submit.

[petej0]

I mean it sounds like a "duh" but there actually are some people that believe its ok to pay young recruits with "experience" cause they're too lazy to come up with a solid plan or just plain greedy.

Don't give me the free market nutter bs, if you work 35h/week or whatever duration is your legal standard you should be paid a decent living wage regardless of the nature of the job.

I would love it if a waitress got paid $40k a year, but it isnt happening.

[Daymanmb]

Which is why negotiations are skewed in favor of employers (that have an incentive to pay as little as they can).

Maybe a better way to ask the question of the OP is "why should taxpayers have to subsidize low-wage workers?"

This is it right here. Everyone bitches about taxes, and bitches about minimum wage going up, yet they dont seem to grasp that theyre paying for these people to live.

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I would love it if a waitress got paid $40k a year, but it isnt happening.

I easily made that serving.

[Deleted]

Well, it looks like someone is out to kill capitalists for Christmas.

I'm just waiting for the OP to call for violence and murder to all those who don't submit.

stop projecting

[God Save The King]

Yeah I agree. There are few reasons to pay so little beyond pure greed.

[Mad_Murdock]

Don't give me the free market nutter bs, if you work 35h/week or whatever duration is your legal standard you should be paid a decent living wage regardless of the nature of the job.

What is (how much is) a decent living wage?

[Daymanmb]

What is a decent living wage?

Every where is different. It mostly comes down to rental costs. A decent living wage in Toronto is different than Niagara Falls for instance bc of the cost of living differences.

[God Save The King]

What is (how much is) a decent living wage?

It varies based on location. Urban centers tend to be higher than rural areas, primarily due to rent.

[Deleted]

What is a decent living wage?

enough to afford healthy food, housing for 1, bills, and some movie theater tickets / leisure time

as you get older your wage goes up too to allow you to support a family

[Zelk]

If your business isn't paying a decent wage well have I got a molotov cocktail for you

[Mad_Murdock]

enough to afford healthy food, housing for 1, bills, and some movie theater tickets / leisure time

Throw me a number here

[Machismo]

stop projecting

How do you intend to enforce such measures? What if people don't want to follow along?

Yup, you are proving my point for me.