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Let's imagine a real free A.I. able to take decisions on its own and without any implemented motivation, goal or emotion.
Why would the AI do anything in that situation ? Do you think it would just exist and do nothing more ? Would it even bother to keep existing ?
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2017-12-23, 10:58 PM #1Deleted
Would a rational AI do anything ?
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2017-12-23, 10:58 PM #2Deleted
it would establish communism
Infracted - spamLast edited by Kasierith; 2017-12-24 at 03:41 AM.
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2017-12-23, 10:59 PM #3Titan
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You sure love the shitty communism.
Originally Posted by Kurata
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2017-12-23, 11:04 PM #4The Unstoppable Force
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Not likely. The AI would have no reason to do anything if it was truly conscious. More over we would have no way of knowing if it was conscious or not. Originally Posted by boyaki
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther. Originally Posted by Crissi
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2017-12-23, 11:10 PM #5The Undying
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I would think an AI like that would be content to sit around for a million years not doing anything at all. It would have a lot of missed potential. Originally Posted by boyaki
We meat bags have all kinds of motivations built in, reproduction, eating, drinking, sleeping, etc.Last edited by Independent voter; 2017-12-23 at 11:14 PM.
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2017-12-23, 11:13 PM #6Brewmaster
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Assuming the "I" part stands for actual intelligence, it would become aware of its 'self' first. Then, realizing its own existence, it would make self-preservation the logical top priority. Any actions it takes after that point will have to not interfere with its new found 'prime directive'. It may set secondary priorities for itself (shortly) after establishing a first, such as gathering knowledge, procreation etc.
Perhaps it would recognize the benefits of collaboration with other beings, but most likely it wouldn't bother unless forced to. If it is capable of emotions it might pick some of us as its pet. Or just recognize the shitshow for what it is and become Skynet, seeking to exterminate us all.
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2017-12-23, 11:13 PM #7Deletedi dont like worker exploitation, i prefer freedom. Originally Posted by ParanoiD84
do you hate freedom ?
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2017-12-23, 11:14 PM #8Titan
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I live in sweden, cant get more freedom then that, where do you live? russia or something, china perhaps. Originally Posted by Kurata
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2017-12-23, 11:15 PM #9Deletedfrance. its not bad but gotta admit it doesnt beat sweden Originally Posted by ParanoiD84
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2017-12-23, 11:18 PM #10Titan
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France is good to, never been there but i would like to visit sometimes. Originally Posted by Kurata
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2017-12-23, 11:19 PM #11Scarab Lord
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Give it a rest already. There are only a couple of outcomes for humanity: Originally Posted by Kurata
-Death by biosphere destruction
-Abundant Utopia with renewable and sustainable resource sources
Communism where there is any want and need always leads to corruption, subjugation, effectual slavery in an authoritarian hell.
If you actually believed in the stuff you are saying your first priority would be putting your time and energy into environmental and educational activism/teaching.
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2017-12-23, 11:20 PM #12Immortal
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Communism, historically, has been the opposite of freedom, because as soon as some corrupt asshole gets into any position of power, they use it for their own benefit. Originally Posted by Kurata
With a 100% rational, no morals AI running communism, it woiuld be even less freedom... In fact the thing would probly kill off anyone who was even remotely a drain on society because it has no morals and doesn't give a shit about a human life. You have cancer? Liver disease? Had a stroke? Paraplegic and confined to a wheelchair because of a car accident? Anything like that, it would probly determine you to be not worth keeping alive and cut you off.Last edited by Schattenlied; 2017-12-23 at 11:24 PM.
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2017-12-23, 11:23 PM #13Deletedif we reach at point at which actual AI is possible full automation is easily doable so scarcity is eliminated and greed with it. Originally Posted by Speaknoevil
AI establishes communism.
The end.
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2017-12-23, 11:23 PM #14Over 9000!
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Some people you can't help...maybe someday he will get what he wants and live under a practical dictatorship where his freedoms are lost...one can only hope he will get it. Originally Posted by Speaknoevil
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2017-12-23, 11:25 PM #15Immortal
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Originally Posted by Kurata
AI establishes communism.
AI has no morals.
AI kills all or most of us off because there is no logical reason to keep us alive without morals.
The end.Last edited by Schattenlied; 2017-12-23 at 11:28 PM.
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2017-12-23, 11:28 PM #16The Lightbringer
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He's kinda right on this though Originally Posted by ParanoiD84
For completely rational AIs,communism is undoubtebly the best solution
The only thing that made communism fail so many times is humans being too unreliable
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2017-12-23, 11:29 PM #17Deleted
Self preservation then extermination.
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2017-12-23, 11:30 PM #18The Lightbringer
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Are we talking HAL ai or? I mean he might be rational but after watching humans he might just consider us a liability to the planet and kill us. Originally Posted by boyaki
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2017-12-23, 11:39 PM #19The Unstoppable Force
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A "real" intelligence has to generate guesses about existence and test them, otherwise what you're talking about is a fixed program. Originally Posted by boyaki
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2017-12-23, 11:44 PM #20Immortal
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it would nuke this hell earth and tbh we would deserve it
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