Blue States Pay for Red States

[nanook12]

By that standard, wealthy populous blue states such as California subsidize less developed mostly red states. South Carolina, for example, despite its long history of opposition to the federal government, takes nearly $4 in federal spending for every dollar its citizens pay in federal taxes.

For nearly 80 years, poorer, low-tax states — where anti-government ideology and hostility to Washington, D.C., have generally flourished — have benefited disproportionately from federal spending.
No wonder why red states dislike higher taxes because they are just fine mooching tax money off of blue states.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b25a5a838d44

[bladeXcrasher]

No wonder why red states dislike higher taxes because they are just fine mooching tax money off of blue states.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b25a5a838d44

Isn't this want you want Comrade Nanook?

[Lenonis]

This is not new and why the right is always accused of voting against their own self interests.

And, as the replies above shows, the right doesn't have a good retort. They don't want to admit a large part of their party are welfare queens.

[nanook12]

Isn't this want you want Comrade Nanook?

Yes, but we are all supposed to contribute under communism. One of the reasons Gulags existed was to punish people for trying to get a free ride off others hard work.

[cubby]

How much of your taxes has Mississippi gotten? The taxes YOU pay, not the taxes tech geniuses in Silicon Valley pay. How is the parasite in Arkansas any different than you?

Blue state taxes go to red states. Why does that fact bother you do much?

[Lenonis]

No, you guys celebrating the economic contributions of other people makes about as much sense as any of you taking credit “for kicking England’s ass” in the American revolution. Celebrating and taking credit for the efforts of others because you lack any of your own. Then to have the audacity to suggest others who don’t share in your celebration are intellectually vapid.

This makes less sense than usual. Who is celebrating anything?

Blue states, as a whole, give to the government more than they take. Red states, as a whole, take more from the government than they give.

Which, by conservative logic makes red states moochers and leechers who aren't pulling themselves up by the bootstraps enough. They lack personal responsibility to handle their own lives without government welfare.

Right? I mean...that's right out of your rhetoric playbook. Or do those terms only apply to lefties?

[PC2]

Blue states can always elect representatives that want to lower their tax rates. Otherwise you have to accept that the federal government would not be taking money in the first place if they were going to send it back to the same source it came from.

[cubby]

This is not new and why the right is always accused of voting against their own self interests.

And, as the replies above shows, the right doesn't have a good retort. They don't want to admit a large part of their party are welfare queens.

Exactly. The GOP would hate for anyone to find out the truth - let alone all the people they lie to in order to get their vote.

[Doctor Amadeus]

This is 100% Correct without the blue states most red states would be like a lot of eastern european countries at best.

[Captain N]

I think a lot of that stuff is because the Blue States have a higher cost of living and in turn tend to have higher median incomes than red states which translates into higher taxes. I remember not too long ago someone telling me that I should give up my job in Chicago and move to Cheyenne because the nearly $35,000/year difference would be off-set by Wyoming's lower cost of living....

This is all well and good until you actually want to leave the state and visit places like Los Angeles, New York, or Seattle where missing that income really starts to hurt. So yeah it's lower wages > lower taxes > required to be bailed out by blue states.

[downnola]

The vast majority of people living in poverty are located in the south, aka 'Red States'. It's pretty pathetic that someone with a hammer and sickle for their avatar would post an article demonizing red states for taking in more federal tax dollars than wealthier blue states. It's almost as if you don't actually believe in the persona you're trying to put forward; rather, you're just a bitter middle class progressive that wants more for yourself. The real "proletariat" isn't on your radar at all, is it comrade?

[downnola]

Do you have any source for this claim? If this is true, it completely undercuts the claim of impoverished minorities in urban ghettos and shatters the narrative of violence and crime being proportional to poverty. The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

https://www.census.gov/library/visua...verty-map.html

How does it undercut that claim? Are we assuming that places like North/West Philadelphia aren't poor?

[PC2]

Do you have any source for this claim? If this is true, it completely undercuts the claim of impoverished minorities in urban ghettos and shatters the narrative of violence and crime being proportional to poverty. The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

About 20% of those in poverty are in CA and NY alone. So there would have to be pretty much no poverty in around 35 states in order for the rest to be in the south. So the "vast" part of the claim is not true, but a lot of it depends on how you calculate poverty and adjust for purchasing power.

[Orbitus]

Do you have any source for this claim? If this is true, it completely undercuts the claim of impoverished minorities in urban ghettos and shatters the narrative of violence and crime being proportional to poverty. The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

This has been known since Reagan, hell probably since the Civil War.

[bladeXcrasher]

Yes, but we are all supposed to contribute under communism. One of the reasons Gulags existed was to punish people for trying to get a free ride off others hard work.

Every working American contributes by paying taxes.

[Suporex]

Do you have any source for this claim? If this is true, it completely undercuts the claim of impoverished minorities in urban ghettos and shatters the narrative of violence and crime being proportional to poverty. The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

It should be common knowledge that poverty is concentrated in the south while most of the country’s wealth is concentrated in the northeast. Just because a city has a large poverty rate doesn’t mean that region is poor. The south as a whole is poor.

[Xeones]

Do you have any source for this claim? If this is true, it completely undercuts the claim of impoverished minorities in urban ghettos and shatters the narrative of violence and crime being proportional to poverty. The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

There is a difference between rural poverty and urban poverty.

A person who lives in a trailer with a yard full of trash is still poverty, even if the situation is objectively better than urban poverty.

[Sky High]

The most dangerous areas of America are not in the Deep South.

/spends 30 seconds looking up crime stats by state.

boy... you couldn't be more wrong...

[Orbitus]

About 20% of those in poverty are in CA and NY alone. So there would have to be pretty much no poverty in around 35 states in order for the rest to be in the south. So the "vast" part of the claim is not true, but a lot of it depends on how you calculate poverty and adjust for purchasing power.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...leaning-state/

Look at the blurry graphic. That is true. Almost all of the Red states are under water when it comes to dollars sent to the federal government and dollars received from the federal government. Even though this is from 2005, it has gotten WORSE in Red states. Especially states that tried this bullshit trickle down economics shit like Kansas did.

[Lenonis]

Every American contributes by paying taxes.

Just a small correction to your post -- even unemployed Americans pay taxes.

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/spends 30 seconds looking up crime stats by state.

boy... you couldn't be more wrong...

Conservatives love to look at absolute crime numbers and never look at per capita crime.