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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    lol, the 8mil that quit aren't playing on private servers. You'd be lucky to have even 1mil on private servers.
    If you assume that is any indication of how successful or how many people will play classic, you are mistaken.

    I would play vanilla servers now if they weren't laggy pieces of crap or some vanilla hybrid crap show or in danger of being shut down by Blizzard at any moment.

    Why invest any time into something like that?

    I have a feeling there are many other people out there with that exact same mindset.

    Not to mention the group of people that don't even know about private servers or are super paranoid of downloading a virus onto their computer to play it.

    Fact of the matter is there are many many reasons "only" a million people play private servers.

    Has nothing to do with vanilla not being good. It may not be for everyone, but you can't make everyone happy.
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  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    If you assume that is any indication of how successful or how many people will play classic, you are mistaken.

    I would play vanilla servers now if they weren't laggy pieces of crap or some vanilla hybrid crap show or in danger of being shut down by Blizzard at any moment.

    Why invest any time into something like that?

    I have a feeling there are many other people out there with that exact same mindset.

    Not to mention the group of people that don't even know about private servers or are super paranoid of downloading a virus onto their computer to play it.

    Fact of the matter is there are many many reasons "only" a million people play private servers.

    Has nothing to do with vanilla not being good. It may not be for everyone, but you can't make everyone happy.
    Uh... I'm not talking about how successful Classic will or won't be because of the amount of the private server population. The poster I quoted is acting as if everyone who has quit wow, is playing on private servers, when that's clearly not the case. Most folks who quit playing WoW, have moved on in their life. Nothing more to it. So what in the fuck are you talking about?
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  3. #203
    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    Uh... I'm not talking about how successful Classic will or won't be because of the amount of the private server population. The poster I quoted is acting as if everyone who has quit wow, is playing on private servers, when that's clearly not the case. Most folks who quit playing WoW, have moved on in their life. Nothing more to it. So what in the fuck are you talking about?
    So you assume that most of the people that quit WoW have no intention or desire to play Classic WoW because they moved on... all based off of how many people play private servers.

    That's "what the fuck" I am talking about.

    There are many more reasons that players quit WoW or don't play private servers, than simply "moving on". You're trying to blanket everyone in order to sound like there is no other answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deztru View Post
    I very recently showed to my brother (who played most during Vanilla) that Classic is actually gonna be a thing.

    The first thing he said is "Really? They're gonna leave it as it was? It was fucking horrible have fun with one tank class and grinding an hour for a potion"
    You're talking to an old and current EQ player lol. Grinding in the context of wow is trivially easy

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    So you assume that most of the people that quit WoW have no intention or desire to play Classic WoW because they moved on... all based off of how many people play private servers.

    That's "what the fuck" I am talking about.

    There are many more reasons that players quit WoW or don't play private servers, than simply "moving on". You're trying to blanket everyone in order to sound like there is no other answers.
    It is freaking 14 years buddy. As much as I would love to believe, that population on Classic servers will explode to millions, it is not going to happen. While classic servers could still be hugely popular for average MMO, in terms of WoW numbers, I think it will be just niche thing for a "few" (few is still huge number here).

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    So you assume that most of the people that quit WoW have no intention or desire to play Classic WoW because they moved on... all based off of how many people play private servers.

    That's "what the fuck" I am talking about.

    There are many more reasons that players quit WoW or don't play private servers, than simply "moving on". You're trying to blanket everyone in order to sound like there is no other answers.
    You are absolutely delusional if you don't think the majority of WoW players who've quit, haven't moved on. The people who started in Vanilla, have grown up, they have kids and careers. WoW simply requires time investment than most are willing to commit. You thinking otherwise just goes to show your lack of growth as a person.
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  7. #207
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    You do realize that some of the people asking for things DID play Vanilla and not Vanilla-Like PS (which btw ALSO had changes in them).
    i know there are probably some who played vanilla that want changes.
    im just saying it makes me sad to see people wanting things that werent in vanilla to be added.
    this is meant to be a museum piece. not some retail crap.
    the people that have pushed for this for years and years want the game as it was and not some vanilla / retail mishmash.
    i want to play the game as it was cause i prefer it to todays product. i like that everything took time. i like that there were things that werent convenient. i want classes to be the same as they were. and i know the ones who pushed for this want the same thing.
    if you want to add things that werent in vanilla this is not for you.
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  8. #208
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    i know there are probably some who played vanilla that want changes.
    im just saying it makes me sad to see people wanting things that werent in vanilla to be added.
    But unless someone comes out and says "I didnt play in Vanilla but I want X" then you don't know if they did or not.

    Also, I lump people that only played on a PS and not in Vanilla 11-13 years ago in the same group as someone that never played it. Not everyone will view it the same way and I get it, but PS Vanilla is not the same as what people went through long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    this is meant to be a museum piece. not some retail crap.
    This is not true either. It is not a museum piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    the people that have pushed for this for years and years want the game as it was and not some vanilla / retail mishmash.
    People that have been pushing for this for years and years ALSO have different opinions on what should or shouldn't be in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    if you want to add things that werent in vanilla this is not for you.
    You aren't Blizz so you don't make that call.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    But unless someone comes out and says "I didnt play in Vanilla but I want X" then you don't know if they did or not.

    Also, I lump people that only played on a PS and not in Vanilla 11-13 years ago in the same group as someone that never played it. Not everyone will view it the same way and I get it, but PS Vanilla is not the same as what people went through long ago.

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    This is not true either. It is not a museum piece.

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    People that have been pushing for this for years and years ALSO have different opinions on what should or shouldn't be in the game.

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    You aren't Blizz so you don't make that call.
    i played vanilla. i started in dec the year it was released.not that it matters.

    they have said that it was going to be "as close to vanilla as we can get it". meaning it is more of a museum piece than it is not.

    they may have some differences on what patch or if they want to fix bugs or some stuff but not something like "balancing" the classes or random qol shit that people keep trying to drill into the game and ruin what could be something awesome.

    i may not be blizzard, but i believe in my own opinion that if you want to add something that wasnt in vanilla it is not for you.
    that is my opinion though and i dont have the rule of law to enforce it. i only have my words.
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  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    i played vanilla. i started in dec the year it was released.not that it matters.

    they have said that it was going to be "as close to vanilla as we can get it". meaning it is more of a museum piece than it is not.
    Sure, but they are still taking feedback from players on many aspects. It isn't worth getting up in arms about it until they start to talk about what their plans are instead of "It is happening".

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Sure, but they are still taking feedback from players on many aspects. It isn't worth getting up in arms about it until they start to talk about what their plans are instead of "It is happening".
    ya but look at it from the eyes of someone who wants to play that old game the way it was and not being able to due to them changing the game for so long. then getting it dangled in your face after years of beseeching them ,only to have it snatched away by people that have to have it but with added qol bullshit.

    you too would be a bit miffed.
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  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    You are absolutely delusional if you don't think the majority of WoW players who've quit, haven't moved on. The people who started in Vanilla, have grown up, they have kids and careers. WoW simply requires time investment than most are willing to commit. You thinking otherwise just goes to show your lack of growth as a person.
    Still making assumptions but whatever makes you feel better. I'm 38 have kids and I have more time than ever since Gym/Social time is pretty nonexistent for me (and my friends). You assume everyone is swamped by real life things more now than they were 14+ years ago, and that hardly anything I would call fact. Some people... sure, but I wouldn't say most.

    And I never said everyone that played will be returning or would be playing on private servers if XXX were not a factor. That's ridiculous. I'm simply saying you make grand assumptions based off of nothing but more assumptions.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    I'm not sure why everyone is so deadset on changing things. What's wrong with leaving it alone and as close to consistent with the original as humanly possible?
    Try Oldschool Runescape. They tried to keep it the same as it was back in 2007. How'd that turn out?

  14. #214
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    Still making assumptions but whatever makes you feel better. I'm 38 have kids and I have more time than ever since Gym/Social time is pretty nonexistent for me (and my friends). You assume everyone is swamped by real life things more now than they were 14+ years ago, and that hardly anything I would call fact. Some people... sure, but I wouldn't say most.

    And I never said everyone that played will be returning or would be playing on private servers if XXX were not a factor. That's ridiculous. I'm simply saying you make grand assumptions based off of nothing but more assumptions.
    Oh yeah, you're delusional. Your personal anecdotal experience isn't representative of the majority of those who've played WoW. It's a excepted that the majority of people who've stopped playing WoW, did so not because the game went in a direction that they disagreed with, but because they had different priorities in life. And of course YOU never said everyone would return, but then again, I was responding to Laqweeta, not you, but you felt the need to jump in with your naivety.
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  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    Oh yeah, you're delusional. Your personal anecdotal experience isn't representative of the majority of those who've played WoW. It's a excepted that the majority of people who've stopped playing WoW, did so not because the game went in a direction that they disagreed with, but because they had different priorities in life. And of course YOU never said everyone would return, but then again, I was responding to Laqweeta, not you, but you felt the need to jump in with your naivety.
    LOL. Did you take some sort of poll or something? Where do you get these "facts"?

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    I haven't gone through the entire thread, but has anybody else bought WoW time for gold PRIOR to WoW tokens?


    I know I have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnedge View Post
    So you assume that most of the people that quit WoW have no intention or desire to play Classic WoW because they moved on...
    That's kinda definition of moving on. If you moved on on your ex girlfriend you don't go "oh hey you are back lets date again!", because you moved on.
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  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Xecks View Post
    the people that have pushed for this for years and years want the game as it was and not some vanilla / retail mishmash.
    That's a bit presumptuous don't you think? I've pushed for this for years (signed the petition and everything) and I'd like to see some changes that make the game less rough around the edges as long as the gameplay, the character/content progression and social aspects remain the same.

    For example the auto loot toggle as an interface option so I won't have to hold down shift 24/7.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    That's kinda definition of moving on. If you moved on on your ex girlfriend you don't go "oh hey you are back lets date again!", because you moved on.
    Yeah people never do that.

    Also, that's a horrible analogy. A better one would be: Your girlfriend, you love, of 2 years decides she wants to smoke crack. You break it off because she has changed and won't get help. 10+ years later you bump into her and she has straightened her life out. You decide to give her another chance (even though your constant crying on the WoW forums is probably what caused her to smoke crack in the first place.)

    You can't just pick and choose certain things when making an analogy.

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    I can see the Authenticator being implemented, as it has zero impact on the game.

    But as for the rest you failed really hard to give the slightest hint of inevitability.

    I can imagine some tweaks being made to numbers - not mechanics - in hopes of making every spec more competitive.
    It is specially easy to do in Classic because we had Spell Ranks.
    Example: If Retribution sucks from level 50 to 60, adjust the spell ranks at those levels (mana cost, damage, etc). Simple.
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