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    Would you like current Class/Race combos? and why?

    Hi.
    i dont have a strong opinion on the subject.
    Though i expect 90% negative answers, i'd like to hear your thoughts on it.


    Would you like to see the current Class/Race combinations in Classic?
    (and why do you think it would be good/bad to have/not have them)

    Humans: Hunter.
    Dwarves: Shaman, Warlock, Mage.
    Gnomes: Hunter, Priest.
    Nightelves: Mage.
    Orcs: Mage.
    Trolls: Druid, Warlock.
    Tauren: Paladin, Priest.
    Undead: Hunter.

    Appart from Tauren Paladins, and maybe Nightelf Mages, the rest of the combinations did exist since vanilla, but they were just not playable.
    Either way, it's all or nothing, since you cant give the Alliance Shamans, and no Paladins to the Horde.
    Last edited by Alex86el; 2017-12-31 at 05:44 AM.

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    Not going to happen.
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    I might see Tauren and Gnome priests, or Troll druids for lore reasons. But most of the rest have lore that lies beyond what vanilla is about, that also kind of includes troll druids.
    I think this would be too much pandering to the screaming minority that just want all kinds of new things that wouldn't add to/benefit the game.

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    i hope to god they don't.

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    Either way all disscusions will lead to one simple fact: it wasn’t originally in Vanilla, thus it won’t be in Classic. Simple as that. Obviously more race/class combinations i.e. more options is better. But it can’t happen, sadly.

    That said, in TBC/Wrath I would’ve appreciated Blood Elf Warriors. But I’ll have to wait long to see official TBC/WoTLK realms... and even then, more race/class combinations didn’t get added until Cata.
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    Classic is classic.

    So... NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Classic is classic.

    So... NO.
    Vanilla is Vanilla. But unfortunately we still don’t know what exactly Classic is or will be. So who knows what Blizzard will do...
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    So how does having CURRENT race/class combos recreate the CLASSIC wow experience? Please answer this question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottled View Post
    So how does having CURRENT race/class combos recreate the CLASSIC wow experience? Please answer this question.
    Well to be honest even a pure server like ppl want doesn't recreate the experience. Its like having sex the 100th time....its not like the 1st time.

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    These threads are starting to piss me off. If it's going to be authentic, there can be NO changes. Even then, it won't feel the same, because it'll be integrated into battle net now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stomination View Post
    Well to be honest even a pure server like ppl want doesn't recreate the experience. Its like having sex the 100th time....its not like the 1st time.
    I am talking about the design of the game dude.

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    Logic 101:

    If we get vanilla delivered at all, then it will NOT have any extras.
    OR
    If there are extras - then by definition we aren't getting Vanilla delivered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodraw View Post
    Vanilla is Vanilla. But unfortunately we still don’t know what exactly Classic is or will be
    We do know what classic IS ...

    Once you add choc chips to vanilla icecream - it isn't vanilla icecream any more.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Logic 101:

    If we get vanilla delivered at all, then it will NOT have any extras.
    OR
    If there are extras - then by definition we aren't getting Vanilla delivered.

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    We do know what classic IS ...

    Once you add choc chips to vanilla icecream - it isn't vanilla icecream any more.
    Except Blizzard has stated their GOAL is to recreate the feeling of Classic WoW as close as possible.
    They have also stated the have CONSIDERED balancing the classes.

    These two quotes alone allow the possibility that WoW: Classic may be different from Vanilla. If they feel a change from Vanilla is warranted, they'll do it. For example, I can see them programming it so Paladin gear doesn't drop for Horde and Shaman gear doesn't drop for the Alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Except Blizzard has stated their GOAL is to recreate the feeling of Classic WoW as close as possible.
    Indeed, so silly random requests like 'class balance' and 'class combos' and '<infinite others>' which make the task more complex WHILST also making it less vanilla won't be in the mix.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Logic 101:

    If we get vanilla delivered at all, then it will NOT have any extras.
    OR
    If there are extras - then by definition we aren't getting Vanilla delivered.

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    We do know what classic IS ...

    Once you add choc chips to vanilla icecream - it isn't vanilla icecream any more.
    Very good analogy, and I hope they’ll stay true to this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    Hi.
    i dont have a strong opinion on the subject.
    Though i expect 90% negative answers, i'd like to hear your thoughts on it.


    Would you like to see the current Class/Race combinations in Classic?
    (and why do you think it would be good/bad to have/not have them)

    Humans: Hunter.
    Dwarves: Shaman, Warlock, Mage.
    Gnomes: Hunter, Priest.
    Nightelves: Mage.
    Orcs: Mage.
    Trolls: Druid, Warlock.
    Tauren: Paladin, Priest.
    Undead: Hunter.

    Appart from Tauren Paladins, and maybe Nightelf Mages, the rest of the combinations did exist since vanilla, but they were just not playable.
    Either way, it's all or nothing, since you cant give the Alliance Shamans, and no Paladins to the Horde.
    This was actually one of the changes Blizzard made that I enjoyed the most. Playing a Dwarf mage/lock is something I would love to do in Vanilla. Sadly, it won't happen. For 1) because it's not how Classic WoW was, and 2) The lore reasons for allowing Dwarves to be mages and locks was due to Moira bring the Dark Irons into the Alliance. And that didn't happen until her son was born.

    (I guess Blizz forgot about that now that Dark Irons are a new allied race... /eyeroll)
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Indeed, so silly random requests like 'class balance' and 'class combos' and '<infinite others>' which make the task more complex WHILST also making it less vanilla won't be in the mix.
    Did you even read the rest of my post? I addressed how that isn't by default true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Did you even ...
    Nah, thousands of people Classic to not be Classic - all pretty much coming up with the same lame excuses for their particular desire to change Classic.

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
    You will need two people, Brian MUST use the mouse for movement/looking and John MUST use the keyboard for casting, attacking, healing etc.
    Briand and John share the same goal, same intentions - but they can't talk to each other, however they can react to each other's in game activities.
    Now see how far Brian and John get in WoW.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Except Blizzard has stated their GOAL is to recreate the feeling of Classic WoW as close as possible.
    They have also stated the have CONSIDERED balancing the classes.

    These two quotes alone allow the possibility that WoW: Classic may be different from Vanilla. If they feel a change from Vanilla is warranted, they'll do it. For example, I can see them programming it so Paladin gear doesn't drop for Horde and Shaman gear doesn't drop for the Alliance.
    Community managers have avoided outright dismissing the possibility of balance changes. No actual Blizzard developer has gone on record to say that they are making changes to the spells and talents. It's just community managers doing their job, when the information is not available to them. Empty words, that does not deny or confirm.

    As for class/race, it's little more than a superficial change that would enrage the actual people asking for classic, while only pleasing a few people.
    Last edited by MMKing; 2018-01-01 at 11:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Nah, thousands of people Classic to not be Classic - all pretty much coming up with the same lame excuses for their particular desire to change Classic.
    So why even bother replying if you can't be bothered to read it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMKing View Post
    Community managers have avoided outright dismissing the possibility of balance changes. No actual Blizzard developer has gone on record to say that they are making changes to the spells and talents. It's just community managers doing their job, when the information is not available to them. Empty words, that does not deny or confirm.

    As for class/race, it's little more than a superficial change that would enrage the actual people asking for classic, while only pleasing a few people.
    Did I say they confirmed class balancing? They have stated they have considered class balancing. They also have stated that they'll attempt to listen to the majority. My point is against people claiming it absolutely won't happened.
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