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    The Children's Crusade of 1212 AD

    Source: http://www.history.com/news/the-disa...tart-a-crusade



    By the time Stephen of Cloyes and his followers reached Paris in 1212, they were exhausted, hungry and thirsty. But nothing could keep their leader from his bold mission. His entourage waited as Stephen demanded—and got—an audience from the King of France to ask for permission to conduct a crusade.
    Stephen’s vision was grandiose: Along with his followers, he’d remove Muslims from Jerusalem and reclaim the Holy Land for Catholics. But there was something else striking about Stephen—he was just 12 years old.

    His followers were children, too, lured from their families by Stephen’s sermons about a divine vision he’d had. And though King Philip turned down Stephen’s request, they were undaunted. Unarmed and unprepared, these kids were determined to strike out on a crusade of their own.

    But the Children’s Crusade of 1212, as it is now known, has gone down in history as a misguided disaster. And though Stephen was a real historical figure, the truth behind the crusade is less clear. Did it really happen? And were most of its warriors really children?
    Blame the ravages of time for those questions. The so-called Children’s Crusade is only briefly mentioned in chronicles of the Crusades, and since it was never officially declared by a pope, it technically shouldn’t be called a crusade. However, the movement’s unusual rise—and terrible fall—earned it a nickname that still sticks today.



    Pope Urban II ordered the First Crusade in 1095, and the religious wars that followed depended on the approval of the Church. At various times, popes would call on European believers to head to the Holy Land and try to rout out Muslims, and these Catholic Church-sanctioned Crusades continued until the 1400s.
    The Children’s Crusade was different. It didn’t have the approval of the Church, it arose independently, and its participants didn’t even have weapons. Rather, they bore crosses, banners and an optimistic assumption that once they got to the Holy Land, they could convert Muslims with persuasion and divine intervention.

    Though chronicles give conflicting information, there seem to have been two main groups that participated in the Children’s Crusade. There was the flock led by Stephen of Cloyes in France as well as another band of aspiring crusaders in Germany, led by a charismatic boy known as Nicholas of Cologne. Both are said to have whipped up the passions of thousands of people.
    In events that have been described as a form of mass hysteria, Stephen of Cloyes and others headed to Marseille, intent on crossing the Mediterranean and heading to the Holy Land. Legend has it he assembled 30,000 people for his cause, though some historians doubt the claim and say that many of the people were assembling for another crusade or simply went home once they heard Stephen preach. Some stayed, waiting for the sea to part like Stephen had foretold.

    At around the same time, another group of believers gathered in what is now Germany. Nicholas of Cologne—about whom little is known—assembled his own group of followers with reports that an angel told him to start a crusade. Nicholas is said to have inspired tens of thousands of child and adult followers, whom he began leading over the Alps toward Jerusalem.
    Not everyone was enthusiastic about these self-proclaimed crusades. Though the sanctus puer (“holy children”) were motivated by religious fervor and often took the same vows as participants in papal crusades, they were seen as a threat by the Church. The boys’ ability to drum up frenetic support—and their sheer numbers of followers—terrified local clergy, who worried they were losing hold of their flock.



    But though Nicholas and Stephen were labeled fanatics, their mystical mission to the Holy Land intrigued their followers. They held believers spellbound with sermons, songs and promises of miracles. Nicholas was so enthralling that he’s been called the inspiration for the legend of the Pied Piper of Hamelin.
    The boys were good at whipping followers into a religious frenzy, but their simultaneous trips toward Jerusalem weren’t exactly well planned. As Nicholas and his flock headed over the chilly Alps, singing hymns and eagerly awaiting the conversion of the Muslims, they became exhausted and hungry. When they arrived in Genoa, Italy, they faced language barriers and annoyed townspeople who were not eager to play host to a ragged group of religious children. The people of Marseilles weren’t excited to see the crusaders, either.
    Things disintegrated from there. It’s uncertain exactly what happened to all of the crusaders, but it seems that they dispersed once they got to the coastal towns. While waiting for ships to take them to Jerusalem, some took local jobs. Some returned to their towns. Others were sold into slavery or drowned at sea.
    Some accounts say that a small group persisted and headed not to Jerusalem, but to Rome. But when they appeared before Pope Innocent III, he did not sanction their quest. He praised their enthusiasm, but told them they were too young to go on a crusade and told them to go home. It was a humiliating blow.
    Though multiple accounts discuss Stephen and Nicholas, historians still disagree on many of the crusade’s particulars. In 1977, Peter Raedts reassessed the chronicles and concluded that participants in the Children’s Crusade had existed on the margins of society. They may have believed it was up to poor and marginalized people to take up the flag for Christianity after the first Crusades failed. Raedts concluded the crusaders were not really children, but poor people—an interpretation that calls the very name of the movement into question.
    The slender accounts of the so-called Children’s Crusade make it hard to confirm or deny whether the participants were actual kids or just powerless peasants. But the ill-fated journey shows how the influence of just a few persuasive voices can incite a full-blown movement—even one that ends in humiliation and disaster.
    Holy shit! These kids went on a crusade with nothing but crossess and faith alone. They had balls unlike todays eternal millenial soyboy cucks! Gen Z show some promise though. I hear they are more conservative.

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    Fake news.

    The rumor of a children's crusade was started by some historian who read a letter from some Catholic priests. The author of the letter calls some peasants "children" but modern historians believe the priest was insulting some adult peasants who were going on the crusade.
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    Spoilers: they all died in the end.
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    Yeah yeah OP just like you got the balls to do anything but post retarded ass topics.

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    "They had balls!"

    Yeah, you mean they were indoctrinated and brainwashed.

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    Shame for all the "balls" they had, they provided very little challenge. In fact most of them died before reaching their destination. Even millenials are better.

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    Sounds like a cool Anime.

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    ... I can't fault their zeal or idealism. I can fault their results though. their crusade didn't even reach the holy land. How are you supposed to retake the holy land if you didn't even work out transport?!
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    Rather, they bore crosses, banners and an optimistic assumption that once they got to the Holy Land, they could convert Muslims with persuasion and divine intervention.
    ‘Optimistic’ is not the word I’d have used, I would have gone for ‘idiotic’.

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    Was not expecting the "Dam libruls! Conservatives best!" part at the end there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stormbringer View Post
    "They had balls!"

    Yeah, you mean they were indoctrinated and brainwashed.
    pretty certain just about everyone was in that day and age.
    #boycottchina

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    I heard the all got enslaved. Gg kids gg. If half the stuff about the crusades is true they were a cluster fuck. Here's to you fourth crusade

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    R tard conservatives...falling for fake news since the crusades........
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    So it’s “eternal millennial soyboy cucks!” or religious fanatics. Is there no middle ground?
    For most people there is. Jihadis like OP just don't see it.
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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    cant take anything seriously after reading teh work cuck yet again. i dont believe that word means what you think it means.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiyld View Post
    R tard conservatives...falling for fake news since the crusades........
    Are you calling me retarded and a conservative for enjoying the failure that some accounts portray the crusades as. Fuck I never even said I thought it was real hsitroy :L

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    There where no Catholics in 1212 lol
    I mean that was after the east-west spilt. So Catholicism did exist as a separate entity to other major churches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sails View Post
    Are you calling me retarded and a conservative for enjoying the failure that some accounts portray the crusades as. Fuck I never even said I thought it was real hsitroy :L
    im sorry. i didn't mean to quote you, that wasn't directed at you in any way at all, i will edit my post to reflect that..

    greatest of apologies...thats what i get for doing 5 things at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sztyrymytyry View Post
    Source: http://www.history.com/news/the-disa...tart-a-crusade



    Holy shit! These kids went on a crusade with nothing but crossess and faith alone. They had balls unlike todays eternal millenial soyboy cucks! Gen Z show some promise though. I hear they are more conservative.

    DEUS VULT !
    None of them were Republicans. (and none of them were what else... common.. quote and tell me.. lul)

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    Sabbath dude!

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    Sounds like a fun little adventure.

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