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    Cool We're Taking Your President From You Episode V: Bannon: June'16 meeting 'treasonous'

    We are continuing a new series of threads: "We're Taking Your President From You". Over the next year and a half or so we will be charting the major events that will inevitably and inexorably see Donald J. Trump, the illegitimate 45th President of the United States, take the long walk down loser lane as he resigns, is removed, and/or is indicted. And make no mistake... he's symptomatic. The real target, is the alt-right, the fake-conservatives, the reactionaries that put him there. Taking their President Away from them, is an assault on them. To return America to a more docile, more serious and moderate place, the extremists must be sent back to the political fringe whence they came.

    And if they think there is a happy ending for them in this, then they haven't been paying attention.


    We're Taking Your President From You
    UPDATE 1/3/18.

    Bannon: June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with the Russians 'treasonous'. Trump directly targeted by Mueller.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other
    The Guardian just released exceprts from a new book by vertarn political journalist Michael Wolff. The book, "Fire and Fury" is based on hundreds of interviews, including ones with President Donald Trump and his inner circle. Bannon was one of those figures.

    According to the Guardian, Bannon told Wolff that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the Trump campaign's potential ties to Russia is centered on money laundering. Those Financial Crimes we've speculated about? They're an existential threat to Trump, as Bannon sees it.

    Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

    Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

    Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaited political books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him.

    Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language.

    He is particularly scathing about a June 2016 meeting involving Trump’s son Donald Jr, son-in-law Jared Kushner, then campaign chairman Paul Manafort and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower in New York. A trusted intermediary had promised documents that would “incriminate” rival Hillary Clinton but instead of alerting the FBI to a potential assault on American democracy by a foreign power, Trump Jr replied in an email: “I love it.”

    The meeting was revealed by the New York Times in July last year, prompting Trump Jr to say no consequential material was produced. Soon after, Wolff writes, Bannon remarked mockingly: “The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers.

    “Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately.”

    Bannon went on, Wolff writes, to say that if any such meeting had to take place, it should have been set up “in a Holiday Inn in Manchester, New Hampshire, with your lawyers who meet with these people”. Any information, he said, could then be “dump[ed] … down to Breitbart or something like that, or maybe some other more legitimate publication”.

    Bannon added: “You never see it, you never know it, because you don’t need to … But that’s the brain trust that they had.”

    Special counsel Robert Mueller was appointed last May, following Trump’s dismissal of FBI director James Comey, to investigate Russian meddling in the 2016 election. This has led to the indictments of four members of Trump’s inner circle, including Manafort and former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Manafort has pleaded not guilty to money laundering charges; Flynn has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI. In recent weeks Bannon’s Breitbart News and other conservative outlets have accused Mueller’s team of bias against the president.

    Trump predicted in an interview with the New York Times last week that the special counsel was “going to be fair”, though he also said the investigation “makes the country look very bad”. The president and his allies deny any collusion with Russia and the Kremlin has denied interfering.

    Bannon has criticised Trump’s decision to fire Comey. In Wolff’s book, obtained by the Guardian ahead of publication from a bookseller in New England, he suggests White House hopes for a quick end to the Mueller investigation are gravely misplaced.

    “You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to fucking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.


    Last month it was reported that federal prosecutors had subpoenaed records from Deutsche Bank, the German financial institution that has lent hundreds of millions of dollars to the Kushner property empire. Bannon continues: “It goes through Deutsche Bank and all the Kushner shit. The Kushner shit is greasy. They’re going to go right through that. They’re going to roll those two guys up and say play me or trade me.”

    Scorning apparent White House insouciance, Bannon reaches for a hurricane metaphor: “They’re sitting on a beach trying to stop a Category Five.”

    He insists that he knows no Russians, will not be a witness, will not hire a lawyer and will not appear on national television answering questions.

    Fire and Fury will be published next week. Wolff is a prominent media critic and columnist who has written for the Guardian and is a biographer of Rupert Murdoch. He previously conducted interviews for the Hollywood Reporter with Trump in June 2016 and Bannon a few months later.

    He told the Guardian in November that to research the book, he showed up at the White House with no agenda but wanting to “find out what the insiders were really thinking and feeling”. He enjoyed extraordinary access to Trump and senior officials and advisers, he said, sometimes at critical moments of the fledgling presidency.

    The rancour between Bannon and “Javanka” – Kushner and his wife Ivanka Trump – is a recurring theme of the book. Kushner and Ivanka are Jewish. Henry Kissinger, the former secretary of state, is quoted as saying: “It is a war between the Jews and the non-Jews.”

    Trump is not spared. Wolff writes that Thomas Barrack Jr, a billionaire who is one of the president’s oldest associates, allegedly told a friend: “He’s not only crazy, he’s stupid.”

    So here's some words I never thought I'd say.

    Steven Bannon is entirely and completely correct (on this issue, of course).

    First and foremost, Trumpkins, Steve Bannon, American Nationalist, Alt-Reich icon, doesn't have any time for your arch-bullshittery when it comes to that June 2016 meeting. You people have spent the better part of 7 months concocting all sorts of half assed nonsense excuses that nobody buys. And Team Trump did it too.

    Bannon, who was in the room when the story broke? On the record here his position is:
    - It was an astonishingly stupid thing to do period.
    - ESPECIALLY in Trump tower
    - ESPECIALLY without a team of Lawyer present
    - And they should have called the FBI.


    So that should put that to bed. It was, in his words - the word of Trump's ex-Campaign manager, a "treasounous" affair.


    SECONDLY, this part I loved.




    Now let's recall how many Trumpkins, in the media, on TV, here all pretend that "oh this is a big nothingburger".

    Trumpkins, Steve Bannon has no time for your deluded nonsense. This is, in his words "a category five hurricane", and the course to Trump, from Manafort, to Flynn, to Trump Jr+Jared, is "as plain as the hair on your face".

    Welcome to 2018, where even your idols betray you and think the things you say are ridiculous.

    Bannon is not a stupid man. Racist. Extremist. Destructive. Hateful. Reckless. But not stupid. And more than that, he was Trump's kingmaker. He was a key man in the room. Had he been less controversial a figure, he would have been Chief of Staff. They created that position for him, and had him split duties with Reince Preibus, mostly for show. Bannon was the superior one in the relationship.

    Bannon is a terrible person who inflicted this upon America. He will be brought to justice one day. But at this time, in this place, he is a man who was in a privileged position, telling it like it is. Maybe the Trumpkins will finally listen and realize what they bought into and continue to buy into.

    But probably not.

    UPDATE: The Trump Administration has responded. And it's a doozy, roflmao.



    Kill each other, motherfuckers.




    Prior Episodes

    Episode I - 9/8/2017 - Mueller gives White House names of 6 aides he expects to question in Russia probe
    Epidsode II - 10/29/2017 - What the Obstruction Case looks like
    Episode III - 11/24/2917 - Flynn Pleads Guilty, Flips on Trump.
    Episode IV - 12/31/2017 - Happy New Year
    Last edited by Skroe; 2018-01-03 at 11:10 PM.

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    You won't get away with it drruummppfff

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    I wonder what game Bannon is playing. Fuck over Republicans? I mean, I can agree with that part, but what does he want to replace them with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I wonder what game Bannon is playing.
    He wants to destroy Javanka, but protect Trump. That's like shooting the guy holding a hostage at knifepoint. This book seems like Bannon just flat-out admits the Trump campaign, by way of Don Jr specifically, colluded with the Russians, and he claims that's treason. The game, therefore, is trying to convince the world Trump somehow was both unaware and unwilling to commit this illegal act, without making Trump look like a blissfully ignorant idiot.

    Good luck.

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    Hmmm. Bannon is about to release a book, nah couldn't be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Hmmm. Bannon is about to release a book, nah couldn't be..
    What book is he releasing that's related to this story?
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    I wonder what game Bannon is playing. Fuck over Republicans? I mean, I can agree with that part, but what does he want to replace them with?
    Child predators who hate gays and long for the days of slavery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    What book is he releasing that's related to this story?


    Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book.

    "Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian."

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    SO must we trust Bannon now @Skroe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book.

    "Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian."
    It's not Bannon's book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book.

    "Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian."
    Bannon is not the Guardian... at least not on this forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    You won't get away with it drruummppfff
    Why hasn’t congress revealed the Fusion GPS 21 hours of testimony? They have been demanding it, even putting out an oped asking about it? As Bannon put it:

    ”You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy. Their path to fucking Trump goes right through Paul Manafort, Don Jr and Jared Kushner … It’s as plain as a hair on your face.”
    Guess what Fusion GPS is saying they told Congress? In case it wasn’t blatantly obvious, but your anti-Globalization hero, is hiding some nasty shit in his German bank account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    SO must we trust Bannon now @Skroe?
    Where does the issue of trust come in to play here? It's about the Trump campaign's chief executive, and Trump's chief strategist in the White House talking about, and giving his opinion, on other members of those groups. They also happen to be related, by blood or marriage, to Trump. The fact he even commented on it, let alone to that degree, is newsworthy. It's inevitable that people as shitty as the Trumps, and the company they keep, eat each other alive when things go bad. We're barely scratching the surface here.

    Trust has nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book.

    "Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian."
    The article mentions who the author is and it's not Bannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC17 View Post
    Where does the issue of trust come in to play here? It's about the Trump campaign's chief executive, and Trump's chief strategist in the White House talking about, and giving his opinion, on other members of those groups. They also happen to be related, by blood or marriage, to Trump. The fact he even commented on it, let alone to that degree, is newsworthy. It's inevitable that people as shitty as the Trumps, and the company they keep, eat each other alive when things go bad. We're barely scratching the surface here.

    Trust has nothing to do with it.
    Yeah, this explains why Bannon was let go, more than any trust issue. Bannon would have still been in the White House, but he was too busy sucking his own cock, instead of Trump’s.

    I missed the Scaramooch week because I was on vacation... marking it up for the opportunities missed during summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Bannon is not the Guardian... at least not on this forum...
    He's actually a writer for the Guardian, Wolfe that is not Bannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimbold21 View Post
    The article mentions who the author is and it's not Bannon.
    Yeah, but it’s a confusing title. How are people who consider Bannon their guardian, to know that they mean the Guardian news paper? It’s like if a news paper was called god and he thought they meant Trump wrote it. How can one tell the difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    He's actually a writer for the Guardian.
    Oh, I see what you mean. But, the writer isn’t Bannon:

    Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    He's actually a writer for the Guardian, Wolfe that is not Bannon.
    His wiki page doesn't mention the Guardian

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book.

    "Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian."
    So you don't know how to read?

    Bannon isn't the author, and he's not involved in the book's publishing. Now I know where you get your world view though. You just make shit up whole cloth.
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    Just to connect the dots for folks who might not see these as related. Remember how Trump refused to reveal his taxes? Remember the German bank account that had Trump’s account info requested by Muller? Remember the Fusion GPS demanding their testimony be released, pointing to that same bank? Guess what Bannon means by money laundering... Bannon lays out the path for Muller through Papashango, Manafort and Flynn, then goes as far as to be belligerent to those who don’t see it.
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    I've said before that I think Don jr is absolutely fked. In fact out of all the people currently still connected to Trump I think the evidence against him is the strongest. That said cracking him is a delicate issue because it announces the start of the endgame and therefore will likely lead to the endgame set of moves being played. That likely means the firing of Robert Mueller and a testing of congress. These things should only be triggered when all investigative work is done and the country is ready to respond in the desired fashion.

    As to the relation between Bannon and Trump, I believe Bannon is one who has the ideological goals and uses Trump to see them realized. Trump mostly co opted the alt right out of convenience rather than ideological reasons. He has no real political convictions.

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