What’s so wrong about xenophobia?

[Spiffums]

The word itself has become politicize. It is now a "slur" and people loose their shit over it.

[Katchii]

Good thing I never said it wasn’t. I asked someone a specific question for the purpose of showing how ignorant they are (which they proved my point spectacularly) about what they’re talking about and here you come arguing over split hairs like anyone actually gives a shit.

Acknowledging that a problem exists but is not a large enough one to devote resources to, or is not not feasible to even try and address, and denying one exists are two different things.

One is a conscious decision to NOT do something about something, the other is a flat out denial that an issue even exists.

That's not splitting hairs, it's an important distinction.

The post I originally replied to heavily implied that you didn't think it was a problem. If that was never your intention, then my apologies.

[sarahtasher]

TLDR : People tends to finds xenophobia super cool when they are the ones beating people and not the ones being beaten.

For instance, the Germans that were going on and on about racial superiority and living space while massacring Poles in 1939-1940 discovered other aspects of ''MIGHT MAKE RIGHT'' in 1945...

[Deleted]

Yes, xenophobia is bad if you enjoy living in a modern world. If you actually applied xenophobic views to their end game you lose any products or services not produced within your own country. Have fun with that up in CA and stop visiting the scary non-Canadian websites. Stop playing Blizz games as well. No more movies for ya either.

Why would trade and xenophobia be mutually exclusive?

[tankbug]

Tbh, most of what people label Xenophobia isn't actually Xenophobia. Since Xenophobia implies an "Irrational" dislike of people from other Countries. Disliking many places is entirely rational when you don't want their Culture anywhere near you because you know it is backwards or incompatible.

I have 0 dislike for most Countries on Earth. Yet I greatly dislike the Cultures of some Countries for very Rational reasons.

That problem is that even though you can have perfectly legitimate reasons for disliking certain aspects of foreign cultures, but that's not really xenophobic. Xenophobes are treating all refugees and immigrants as invaders, potential terrorists, rapists, criminals and just sit at home in fear, waiting for them to try and establish something like a caliphate and turn the country into a medieval hell hole. This is irrational fear because it's not going to happen.

[kail]

In general there is nothing wrong with xenophobia as long as it is based in reality.

Muslims not being willing to assimilate is an example of xenophobia based in reality.

Mexicans being lazy is an example of xenophobia based in la la land. Most Mexicans work in places that are beyond physically demanding with long hours and minimal pay.

Muslims being a net loss to their western host countries is example of xenophobia based in reality.

Well you get my point. The real reason as to why you wonder if being xenophobic is bad is because the people that are opposed to xenophobia have by far the loudest,far reaching and most annoying voice on the internet and in the news.

You are describing stereotypes, not xenophobia.

[Deleted]

Take a look at all the xenophobic nations, Japan.. etc they all seem to be doing just fine. Why can’t western society just wake ourselves up and stop accepting baggage. One death due to terrorism is too much we need to understand the root of the problem. I notice one thing with western society in particular is that we jump onto new ideas very quickly, this has caused nothing but trouble. I read this article and honestly if it weren’t for the current childish social justice political climate we’ve degraded ourselves into I would not be in fear of speaking up on this. The question I leave with you with; is xenophobia really that bad?

Article reference -
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/townhall...0%3Famp%3Dtrue

If you think Japan is doing fine then you're ignorant as hell.
But then, you are arguing in favor of xenophobia so that seems consistent...

Nothing but trouble? You mean those two world wars we had that were fueled by nothing but ignorance and xenophobia? Yeah, it was a good thing we grew out of that. Yet here you are...

[Blobfish]

A lot of migrants are Xenophobic too.

They get into their little groups and take over areas in the cities and are very suspicious of anyone that is from the host country.

So Xenophobia is just not a Western-Anglo mindset.

[satimy]

Can you provide a link to a cultural worth study.

Do you really want me to prove that cultures with upwards of 50% of the population is inbred are less intelligent? Are you arguing that all cultures are equal?

[Kuntantee]

I'd guess it isn't bad if there's no one around to be on the receiving end. Which is highly likely in Japan. Worse in the west (the most diverse countries on the planet). Not sure why people want more diversity when they simultaneously argue the worst racism exists in the same place.

This is besides the point that preferring a homogeneous society is not the same as xenophobia. Liking people who have a cohesive culture and demographics is not racism or bigotry.

What? West is the most diverse countries on the planet? USA, yes, one of the most diverse. Europe? Filled with people who think racial purism is cool.

[The Casualty]

We should not be concerned about letting people in because they are different. If you are from the United States, I'm sure you witness on a daily basis people of other ethnic groups holding successful jobs, owning businesses etc... What we need to be concerned with is people entering this country who have no job prospects, no education, and will likely not be a net positive for our country - obviously barring legitimate cases of people seeking asylum or refugee status.

First world nations are generally picky about who they let in and rightfully should be. But Xenophobia is dismissive of people based on where they come from rather than what they bring to the table. Which is weird.

[Katie N]

What? West is the most diverse countries on the planet? USA, yes, one of the most diverse. Europe? Filled with people who think racial purism is cool.

What is the proof?

[Kuntantee]

What is the proof?

Proof is the reality. USA being an immigrant country, whereas Europe closing her borders to even refugees.

[satimy]

I never asked you to prove anything. You spoke about cultural worth, I simply asked if there is a way to measure cultural worth. If you can’t show that there is, that’s ok.

I said ancillary facts.

[Pony Soldier]

To be scared of someone because they're different and don't follow your everyday rituals is fucking stupid. We live in a world where there are MANY different cultures and lifestyles and religions. To shelter yourself and believe there is only one way to live, only one religion to believe in, and your culture is the only culture is not healthy at all. So in a way xenophobia is not healthy.

Accept that fact that there are different people out there who believe in different things and live different ways and get over it. Terrorist attacks are not because of culture and religion alone but because of the people who take it to the extreme and mold it into something else that fits their agenda. People then see that and think that is how everyone of that culture is and that is how xenophobia comes about. The actions of shitty people which is what people should be realizing. Bad shit happens because it's shitty excuses for human beings that cause them not culture or religion.

[matt4pack]

Since when is China xenophobic? I must wonder where you're getting your data from

Is this really a serious question?

[serendipity11]

Take a look at all the xenophobic nations, Japan.. etc they all seem to be doing just fine. Why can’t western society just wake ourselves up and stop accepting baggage. One death due to terrorism is too much we need to understand the root of the problem. I notice one thing with western society in particular is that we jump onto new ideas very quickly, this has caused nothing but trouble. I read this article and honestly if it weren’t for the current childish social justice political climate we’ve degraded ourselves into I would not be in fear of speaking up on this. The question I leave with you with; is xenophobia really that bad?

Article reference -
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/townhall...0%3Famp%3Dtrue

99% of terroism cases in the united states are domestic terrorism. As in people born and raised in the united states and decide to go kill a bunch of people. External terrorism cases are very rare.

[Martymark]

Xenomorphs don't like it.

[Swalload]

At its core it is irrational, and we should strive to be more rational all around. Now feel free to justify your dislike of people based on the color of their skin and/or national origin by painting an entire demographic in a negative light because of the extremists/small population of assholes. Because if we want to play that game, I can justify some terrible shit about men in general, but that might trigger some people.

It's okay there's terrible shit about women too.

[Shadowferal]

Japan is a poor example.
Nazi Germany is the perfect example.