Slaveri is not a white on black crime. It's a rich on poor crime.

[Kalis]

So, should people be responsible for the actions of others, or not?

I’ve pointed this out to you before, but your idea would have meant that Britain wouldn’t have restricted Nazis entering the country in the 1930s, which would have been disastrous.

A nation needs to make sure that those entering their territory don’t intend to, nor are likely to, cause harm to those already living there. Importing people who think things like women should have their legal rights restricted, which is a mainstream view amongst Muslims, is bonkers, therefore care needs to be taken over which Muslims are let in.

Less care needs to be taken with letting in the likes of native French people, for example, whose views are usually more closely aligned to typical British attitudes and will thus likely present less of a problem.

[Machismo]

I’ve pointed this out to you before, but your idea would have meant that Britain wouldn’t have restricted Nazis entering the country in the 1930s, which would have been disastrous.

A nation needs to make sure that those entering their territory don’t intend to, nor are likely to, cause harm to those already living there. Importing people who think things like women should have their legal rights restricted, which is a mainstream view amongst Muslims, is bonkers, therefore care needs to be taken over which Muslims are let in.

Less care needs to be taken with letting in the likes of French people, for example, whose views are usually more closely aligned to typical British attitudes and will thus likely present less of a problem.

So, you do think people should be responsible for the actions of others? Good to know.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

If the poor steals from the rich, they get prison time for theft; but if the rich steals from the poor, it's capitalism and is rewarded by bailouts and tax evasion cuts.

Taxes when used properly is in no way theft. Even when used improperly you agree to the terms of taxes when you live in society and use the infulstuctre thoses taxes have paid for. If you don’t want to pay taxes go live by your self off the land in the woods.

[Kalis]

So, you do think people should be responsible for the actions of others? Good to know.

They are being judged on their beliefs, not the actions of others.

[Machismo]

They are being judged on their beliefs, not the actions of others.

So, that means it's nothing more than thought policing, how interesting...

[Tiwack]

The class struggle is infinitely more important than the race struggle. If anything, racism obfuscates that the majority of the issues have to do with poverty, not race with poor white uneducated men and women constantly voting against their class interests to serve the "race war".

QFT
well said

[omeomorfismo]

Ok. So how many years do we have to wait until we can stop talking about slavery in the US? What is the rule and who made it up? I mean the people who were responsible for slavery aren't alive anymore, neither are the people that used to be slaves.

at least until USA dissapears as state. something like URSS more or less

[Moshots]

It was both.

How many slaves in the US were white Americans?

and how many slave owners in africa/the rich people selling the slaves were black???

white americans may have bought slaves but we made a lot of black African slave sellers rich in the process.

[Kalis]

So, that means it's nothing more than thought policing, how interesting...

No, it’s pragmatism.

If you knew that a person thought it was okay to molest children, would you allow them unsupervised access to children? Presumably not, so you aren’t judging that person on the actions of others, you are judging them on their beliefs. It is the same concept.

[Themius]

and how many slave owners in africa/the rich people selling the slaves were black???

white americans may have bought slaves but we made a lot of black African slave sellers rich in the process.

You know.. a lot of the largest African slavers literally weren't black... they were African but they were arabs.

[Machismo]

No, it’s pragmatism.

If you knew that a person thought it was okay to molest children, would you allow them unsupervised access to children? Presumably not, so you aren’t judging that person on the actions of others, you are judging them on their beliefs. It is the same concept.

That sounds a lot like thought policing to me.

[Elim Garak]

You know.. a lot of the largest African slavers literally weren't black... they were African but they were arabs.

But do you know who sold slaves to them?

[Themius]

But do you know who sold slaves to them?

No one considering at one point they were capturing them themselves and the largest slavers in the east did exactly that or were rich or leaders of the countries and had slaves. It is no different from slavery in those areas now where you have wealthy arabs who own black slaves.

The other retarded point by the way of your whole argument Is that even they were black does it matter? Was the nazi Germany aim to make extinct other white groups just "their own people being killed and them killing their own people"?

[Kalis]

That sounds a lot like thought policing to me.

You still haven’t grasped that open borders is a moronic idea, so what something sounds like to you personally is an irrelevance.

[Adam Jensen]

Slavery in general? No.

Slavery in the US? Very much so. Most white slaveholders believed it was a black man's place to be enslaved and cared for by the white man. Race had a massive part to do with it.

[Machismo]

You still haven’t grasped that open borders is a moronic idea, so what something sounds like to you personally is an irrelevance.

We're not really talking about open borders, we've moved onto outright thought policing. You do want to restrict people based on their thoughts, correct?

How is that not thought policing?

[Martymark]

There are currently more slaves in African than were ever exported to the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-un-migration

[Deleted]

That sounds a lot like thought policing to me.

Your passive aggressive rambling sounds like thought policing to me, pal. You're not right and you didn't even manage to be wrong.

[Kalis]

You know.. a lot of the largest African slavers literally weren't black... they were African but they were arabs.

Sub-Saharan Africans, i.e. black Africans, held and traded slaves before and during the Muslim expansion.

Slavery was the norm pretty much everywhere until relatively recently in human history.

[Sky High]

OP almost sounds like he's criticizing capitalism... burn the commie!