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  1. #321
    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    Agreed 100%. The cop shoots (x) narrative reinforces that. So much mishandling of information with mike brown, trayvon (the first time I've heard "white Hispanic") and the lot. Sadly trump used the distrust of mainstream media to his advantage. Something that the media will need to fix.

    CNN blackmailing a guy over a meme will not help them out.
    Part of my family is Latino ... most of my friends are also Latinos .... I’ve heard of white hispanic. And Afro Latino/Latina and then several options for mixed people just because you never heard of it doesn’t mean much.

    If you knew anything about the make up of countries like Chile and Argentina you wouldn’t be questioning whether white hispanics are a thing.
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    I'm not pro violence but I also believe that your actions do effect your well being. Like don't go into a synagogue and ask everyone to pray for our lord and savior Jesus Christ. You're asking for it. Though I'm not sure what was the reason his neighbor had a fight with him to begin with.

  3. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I think it was just a dispute and politics really had nothing to do with it. However, the one doing the interview was trying to push the narrative that violent attacks were the result of the opposite parties actions. He in other words, was trying to justify it. Which is bullshit. That is how the KKK, Nazi's think. :P
    Well, if your politics actually do fuck people over massively economically you are indeed the cause of violent reactions. See the American Revolution for example. @Dmitro do you condemn George Washington?

    Same goes if your politics threaten the lives of the people. Who would condemn uprising against that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    I'm not pro violence but I also believe that your actions do effect your well being. Like don't go into a synagogue and ask everyone to pray for our lord and savior Jesus Christ. You're asking for it. Though I'm not sure what was the reason his neighbor had a fight with him to begin with.
    It was about trees and a property line dispute. Not that uncommon. But the media of course, wants to blow it out of proportion and push a political narrative.

  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Since when are Republicans the party of the middle class? Ha...
    Well, to be fair, they were until the early 60s. Their economic policies of that time were pinko commie socialist compared to nowadays.

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    Treat people like trash and you'll drown in it sooner than you know. Is a wrecked country worth it because "natural selection at work" ??? You know damn well there's the word of Christ as AT LEAST one other of many options. More of a suffering and punishment guy OP?
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  7. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by The King in Yellow View Post
    Last time I checked the CDU was Christian (Social) Democrats, not conservatists.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    People in here always describe her as right wing politician. it cracks me up
    Merkel is a conservative center right politician.

    It of course does not appear that way to you guys as the overton window in the USA is so bizarrely shoved to the right that you don't even have any mainstream left wing parties. Democrats are center right, Republicans are extremist right. (Which is why calling people like Obama socialists always cracks me up Y'all reeeally don't know what that word means)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Well, if your politics actually do fuck people over massively economically you are indeed the cause of violent reactions. See the American Revolution for example. @Dmitro do you condemn George Washington?

    Same goes if your politics threaten the lives of the people. Who would condemn uprising against that?
    That was a totally different scenario. There was a Tyrant King in a foreign country, who was taxing them like crazy. If you want a better example, use the Civil War. Which the ones who started it, it did not end well for them. :P

    I have a lot of admiration for Martin Luther King and this is his birthday. He accomplished more for the African Americans in this country than any other person. He did it without violence. He drew huge crowds which make the BLM ones look like a small neighborhood barbecue party. :P I saw a interview with his niece on tv a year or so ago and she said he would be ashamed at some people and their violent narratives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Merkel is a conservative center right politician.

    It of course does not appear that way to you guys as the overton window in the USA is so bizarrely shoved to the right that you don't even have any mainstream left wing parties. Democrats are center right, Republicans are extremist right. (Which is why calling people like Obama socialists always cracks me up Y'all reeeally don't know what that word means)
    this is what I call a brainwashed EU leftist whos so far to the left that normal countries are "extreme far right" for him, I guess 1950 America is literally a hellhole for Elba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    this is what I call a brainwashed EU leftist whos so far to the left that normal countries are "extreme far right" for him, I guess 1950 America is literally a hellhole for Elba
    Being dismissive of each other gets you no-where which is why some enjoy 1950 and never moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    That was a totally different scenario. There was a Tyrant King in a foreign country, who was taxing them like crazy. If you want a better example, use the Civil War. Which the ones who started it, it did not end well for them. :P
    Foreign country? America was part of the empire. A colony, not a sovereign state.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I have a lot of admiration for Martin Luther King and this is his birthday. He accomplished more for the African Americans in this country than any other person. He did it with out violence. He drew huge crowds which make the BLM ones look like a small neighborhood barbecue party. :P I saw a interview with his niece on tv a year or so ago and she said he would be ashamed at some people and their violent narratives.
    Yeah about that (Below post card from the 60s)



    The whitewashing of the Civil Rights movement into this peaceful Kumbaya nonsense also cracks me up. There were riots, my friend. There were violent clashes. And the same criticisms lopped at black protestors today were lopped at MLK and his compatriots back in the day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    this is what I call a brainwashed EU leftist whos so far to the left that normal countries are "extreme far right" for him,
    America is not a normal country, by any means. The funny thing is that your right wingers are also unique in that the Republicans are the only major Western populist party that actively fights against social programs. Even our Nazis in Europe like front national or afd seek a social security state. For their race, only, but still. Like, the GOP openly, actively tries to fuck their base. Yet the base swallows it up. That is weird.

    You complain about left wing all day, without even knowing what left is. Because you never encountered it in your countries mainstream politics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dmitro View Post
    I guess 1950 America is literally a hellhole for Elba
    Well, probably not, I am male and white. For everybody else, though...
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    Political violence is not acceptable. Period. Of course, neither is authoritarian government. For some reason, people seem to think there is any real difference between the two. Attacking a politician should never be condoned, neither should punching a neo-Nazi asshat. The same goes for hitting a woman with your car, because she happens to think differently than you do, or banning something, just because you don't happen to like that group. That's what I find hilarious about the OP. He whines about political violence, but supports political oppression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Foreign country? America was part of the empire. A colony, not a sovereign state.



    Yeah about that (Below post card from the 60s)


    The whitewashing of the Civil Rights movement into this peaceful Kumbaya nonsense also cracks me up. There were riots, my friend. There were violent clashes. And the same criticisms lopped at black protestors today were lopped at MLK and his compatriots back in the day.
    Which gave them even better motives for revolting.

    And yes, Martin Luther King was correct. It was not the KKK who was the main opposition, but the white moderates. And yes, there was violence, but not ones he sanctioned. He repeatably called for non violent demonstrations. I know, because I was here when he did. I do not think you were even born yet. And you only know what you read about from the media and you also like to cherry pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Which gave them even better motives for revolting.

    And yes, Martin Luther King was correct. It was not the KKK who was the main opposition, but the white moderates. And yes, there was violence, but not ones he sanctioned. He repeatably called for non violent demonstrations. I know, because I was here when he did. I do not think you were even born yet. And you only know what you read about from the media and you also like to cherry pick.
    The biggest opposition was the deep-seeded racists within the government. It's damn hard to stand up, when the government is complicit in the actions against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Political violence is not acceptable. Period.
    Never ever? Never ever ever? So George Washington was wrong? Stauffenberg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Never ever? Never ever ever? So George Washington was wrong? Stauffenberg?
    American rebellion wanst again an american government, it was against the british empire.

    ITS OK TO FIGHT BACK OCCUPIERS, its not ok to fight political opponents. thats why civil war was a mistake, a mess, a disaster while 1776 was a glorious year.

    got it you violent fella?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Never ever? Never ever ever? So George Washington was wrong? Stauffenberg?
    He was a commanding general appointed by representatives of the state's assembly. Not some thug who liked to attack defenseless people. The US had declared Independence. When the groups here declare independence and then appoint a general who is in charge of a large well armed army, then you can do the same comparison. But like the South tried, they would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiwack View Post
    Being dismissive of each other gets you no-where which is why some enjoy 1950 and never moved on.
    I mean we had less racial tensions even in 1950 than today, so we gotta learn something from the past, we also had a civic community back then, you know.

    1 people, 1 culture, 1 american dream, its been dying out since mid 60s and is clearly dead today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiwack View Post
    Treat people like trash and you'll drown in it sooner than you know. Is a wrecked country worth it because "natural selection at work" ??? You know damn well there's the word of Christ as AT LEAST one other of many options. More of a suffering and punishment guy OP?
    Sure, then we should start assaulting democrats and liberals for bringing in 3rd worlders and giving criminals a "sanctuary"

    should we not?

    (I am playing by your logic btw)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    That was a totally different scenario. There was a Tyrant King in a foreign country, who was taxing them like crazy. If you want a better example, use the Civil War. Which the ones who started it, it did not end well for them. :P

    I have a lot of admiration for Martin Luther King and this is his birthday. He accomplished more for the African Americans in this country than any other person. He did it without violence. He drew huge crowds which make the BLM ones look like a small neighborhood barbecue party. :P I saw a interview with his niece on tv a year or so ago and she said he would be ashamed at some people and their violent narratives.
    Nice white-washed version of MLK and the current social movements. You must also think Mexico only exports Coronas and tequila to the US right? The day of MLK's assassination he was supposed to speak on getting billions of dollars of reparations for slavery and how it would alleviate the soul-crushing poverty endemic in black communities. I'd wager to guess you wouldn't have such high praise of him then. He actually spoke about it months before his death in churches throughout the South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Merkel is a conservative center right politician.

    It of course does not appear that way to you guys as the overton window in the USA is so bizarrely shoved to the right that you don't even have any mainstream left wing parties. Democrats are center right, Republicans are extremist right. (Which is why calling people like Obama socialists always cracks me up Y'all reeeally don't know what that word means)
    this is who I was referring to by "crazies who consider merkel a center-right" with her lefty policies. @The King in Yellow

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