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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The lawyer just admitted that he paid her off, but implies Trump didn’t actually do anything.
    Is this the same Trump who threatens libel and slander, even when people say true things?

    Isn't this the person who routinely tries to deny things he says/does on camera, in front of witnesses?

    For Trump (via lawyer) to claim he paid someone, just to stop her from spouting lies, is literally unbelievable.

    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Why does this matter? Was he using campaign money or something?
    First of all, based purely on how his campaign was run, maybe. His campaign spent a LOT on legal fees.

    But that's not the main issue. Trump, the head of the GOP, just got caught paying hush money to a porn star he cheated on his wife with. You'd think the GOP, party of family values and all, would take issue with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Is this the same Trump who threatens libel and slander, even when people say true things?

    Isn't this the person who routinely tries to deny things he says/does on camera, in front of witnesses?

    For Trump (via lawyer) to claim he paid someone, just to stop her from spouting lies, is literally unbelievable.



    First of all, based purely on how his campaign was run, maybe. His campaign spent a LOT on legal fees.

    But that's not the main issue. Trump, the head of the GOP, just got caught paying hush money to a porn star he cheated on his wife with. You'd think the GOP, party of family values and all, would take issue with that.
    Nah, he is getting a Mulligan from the family values people. They already announced so. Rich people get those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    I think it’s utterly insane to accuse me have being a family values con
    Since there is now a debate of what you said, versus what you meant. I think it justifies my idea even more. Report your self for being insulting to your self and see if an impartial moderator will agree.
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    The story is pretty simple. The lawyer was told he was going to take the fall for this scandal. Trump is probably paying him far more than $130,000 to be on retainer. Trump probably hinted that the lawyer would no longer be employed if he didn't take the fall. Therefore the money will lead back to the lawyer and Trump will look clean.

    If I wanted to spend money on something sketchy like drugs or hookers, but I didn't want the money to lead back to me, I'd have someone work for me in a legitimate position who purchased the sketchy stuff with their own funds. I'd just pay them a rediculous salary to keep quiet/take the fall if shit got leaked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therec View Post
    The lawyer was told he was going to take the fall for this scandal.
    Interesting thought, but I don't buy that. Trump has better than average lawyers wandering around, and I'm pretty sure they're smart enough to know that, if your personal lawyer pays hush money to a porn star who says she slept with you, it does nothing to help the court of public opinion.

    I'll rephrase: do you think Melania, after hearing the lawyer's excuse, said, "Whew! Good to know John Donald didn't cheat on me after all and cover it up." ?

    Other than Trump's rabid fanbase, who swallow whatever Trump shoves down their throat regardless of facts or evidence, nobody is going to believe the lawyer kept everything from Trump, and more importantly, aren't going to believe Trump would keep a lawyer who would pay over $100k of his own money to protect Trump's reputation from a blatant lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    The lawyer just admitted that he paid her off, but implies Trump didn’t actually do anything.
    Why would anyone pay off a liar? Is money going to make them honest?

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    If Bush did this we'd still be talking about it.

    For Trump its just Monday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    If Bush did this we'd still be talking about it.

    For Trump its just Monday.
    If any other president did even one of the dozens of items in this category of deplorableness, we'd still be talking about it. At this point we can't even keep track of all the shit Cheeto does on a dailly basis - much less delve into the details.

    Perhaps that's his plan. It certainly worked for the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Why would anyone pay off a liar? Is money going to make them honest?
    In theory, because having someone spread malicious lies about you could damage your reputation and business.

    In practice, Trump threatens to sue people for slander and libel even when they tell the truth, so your original argument becomes even stronger in context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppy View Post
    If Bush did this we'd still be talking about it.

    For Trump its just Monday.
    Very true... especially considering it’s actually Wednesday.
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    This is a perfect time to remember that our President likes kinky shit and is now known to be susceptible to blackmail.

    Existence of pee tape seems more likely and dangerous than ever.
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    "I paid a porn star $130,000 because she absolutely did not sleep with Donald Trump, despite the fact she already admitted it in some detail. No sirree, nothing to see here. I just paid her for absolutely no reason at all."

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    Well, seems this is going to get interesting.

    Apparently Stormy Daniels is now getting ready for a no holes barred interview revealing the whole story.

    WHY NOW?

    Well seems that Michael Cohen's revelation has breached their non disclosure contract - which she is now free of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Well, seems this is going to get interesting.

    Apparently Stormy Daniels is now getting ready for a no holes bared interview revealing the whole story.

    WHY NOW?

    Well seems that Michael Cohen's revelation has breached their non disclosure contract - which she is now free of.
    I was also wondering about that. he divulged information he really should not have. At this point, I don't think there's any court that would uphold that NDA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I was also wondering about that. he divulged information he really should not have. At this point, I don't think there's any court that would uphold that NDA.
    Also - that should have been 'no holes barred' ... my original 'no holes bared' is a little confusing given the topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Also - that should have been 'no holes barred' ... my original 'no holes bared' is a little confusing given the topic
    Puntastic job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Well, seems this is going to get interesting.

    Apparently Stormy Daniels is now getting ready for a no holes barred interview revealing the whole story.

    WHY NOW?

    Well seems that Michael Cohen's revelation has breached their non disclosure contract - which she is now free of.
    In before Stormy accidentally confirms that the pee tape exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Also - that should have been 'no holes barred' ... my original 'no holes bared' is a little confusing given the topic
    The saying is "no holds barred." Although, I'm pretty sure you did this on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaderas View Post
    The saying is "no holds barred." Although, I'm pretty sure you did this on purpose.
    Yeah - but I stuffed up the original, so it's all on me now

    Challenge Mode : Play WoW like my disability has me play:
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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzkopf View Post
    Well seems that Michael Cohen's revelation has breached their non disclosure contract - which she is now free of.
    Oh, damn, if true, that's some incompetent lawyerin' right there. Like, disbarring material.

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