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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    It is relevant because it is a perfect display of liberal double standards and fake ass moral high grounds.
    No, it's because this is what this particular issue about and you believe that just because we hate Trump for this we must love someone else for doing similar. You're the only one here with double standards. You keep deflecting to Clinton all day, but won't actually condemn Trump for doing this and being a hypocrite. Nope, it's all about sticking it to the Clintons. Seriously, do you have a crush on them or something?

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  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    It is relevant because it is a perfect display of liberal double standards and fake ass moral high grounds.
    Don't forget, Bill wouldve been in the White House too if Crooked got elected. I saw zero liberal media attention regarding bill clintons sex scanalds during the presidental campaign.
    That is probably because Bill wasn't up for election, genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    What are Trump's accomplishments? I'm curious on your take will on his first year in the white house.
    I'm curious how he explains
    -- the Russia investigation
    -- the obstruction of justice investigation
    -- the money laundering investigation
    -- having a record number of empty spots in his administration
    -- and yet firing people and replacing them at another record level
    -- killing his own infrastructure bill because he decided not to condemn American Nazis and the KKK
    -- breaking his word on everything from releasing his taxes, being faithful to his wife, and making the pipeline out of American steel
    -- threatening military action and warto the point that the military was concerned they were going to start a war via tweet
    -- fucking up the Puerto Rico effort to the point that 1/3 the island still doesn't have power as contracts are torn up left and right
    -- unilaterally ending DACA without a backup plan, demanded Congress fix it, then promises to veto any such deal unless it contains The Wall costing six times what he promised in the campaign
    -- refusing what everyone else agrees to, Russia attacked the election
    -- not sanctioning Russia despite months past the deadline of the law he signed
    -- bombing Syria as after-dinner entertainment for the Chinese government
    -- and causing basically zero damage
    -- destroying any realistic chance for peace in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, then blaming the Palestinians
    -- demanding loyalty from Comey
    -- firing Yates for telling him about Flynn
    -- outsourcing his campaign promises to Congress and yelling at them when they fail
    -- threatening trade partners
    -- pretending "clean coal" exists and punishing cleaner alternatives by hiking solar tariffs and cutting federal funds
    -- hiring people into jobs that require security clearance and not getting them one
    -- hiring family into jobs that require security clearance and not getting them one
    -- handing one of his more popular campaign promises, the opioid crisis, over to Kellyanne Conway
    -- handing the EPA over to a non-scientist climate change skeptic who blatantly stopped enforcing laws on the books
    -- forcing through a tax cut that will benefit him and his family a billion dollars while adding over a trillion to the national red bank
    -- dropping national opinion of the country to the lowest point since the Iraq War
    -- attacking the US intelligence community by claiming they're deep-state Clinton plants
    -- trying to end net neutrality
    -- trying to increase wealth disparity
    -- trying to remove medicine and health care from millions of Americans

    *pant pant pant*

    Are all in the "nonfactor" category as cheating on your wife.

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    I posted it in another thread already but sure, here super special again for you
    Most of this falls into categories of

    a) stuff that continued on a course begun under Obama, or
    b) giving corporate interests blow jobs in public instead of in back rooms

    c) stolen SCOTUS seat gets its own category, but also falls into b)
    "We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
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    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    I posted it in another thread already but sure, here super special again for you
    First of all, articles that start by saying anyone that opposes Donald Trump is "could arguably constitute downright treason" is not much of a source, and I find it hilarious that the author didn't even run spell check or proofread ("Vial backlash", lol) but fine, lets look at this mess shall we?

    Tax Bill- Ok, it definitely passed, in the most ham fisted partisan way possible, and Trump did more to damage it then build it, but the author got about every single fact wrong about it. There was no commitment from businesses to do anything, not a single estimate of the bonuses has hit even one billion, let alone "Billions" and we paid at least 1.5 Trillion for it. But sure, an accomplishment, even if it cost us long term economic stability.

    Repealed Individual Mandate- Reminder, Trump said all of Obamacare would be gone "Day 1", this isn't an accomplishment, this a complete failure to meet objectives. They tried hard to kill Obamacare, they failed.

    Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR)- Umm, yea? This list specifically measures accomplishments that will impact American's lives, which this either doesn't, or does so in a very negative ways. He did this with oil prices near historic lows, so all it does is make some execs richer.

    Set Record for First-Year Judicial Appointments to Federal Appellate Courts & Neil Gorsuch- Amazing what you can do when congress refuses to confirm judges for more then a year before you were elected, and you own both houses of congress. Not really an achievement, just an opportunity caused by a Republican majority.

    Historic Reduction in Illegal Immigration- I can kind of give him this one, but in one of the worst ways possible. By acting like a terrifying xenophobic monster, he made minorities everywhere scared of the United States. We are less of a shining city on a hill that people want to come to, and more of a monster in the woods people fear meeting. Now some people like being the monster in the woods, so they see this as an accomplishment, and considering that is exactly what he was trying to do, I guess it is.

    Crushing ISIS Caliphate- Give me a break. ISIS was always a flash in the pan, unstable economics, no long term plan, and at war with literally every other entity on the planet, from Al-Quada to Israel, and from the FBI to MS-13. What Trump did not do is a single thing to address the situation that caused ISIS in the first place, so something else is going to come back. ISIS was collapsing from mid-2015, they were all but dead when Trump took office. Even then Trump took Obama's plan exactly and continued it, all that talk of a secret plan never materialized.

    Resurgence of U.S. Economy — the American Spirit: The economy has been booming since at least 2014. Unemployment was at record lows, wages were rising, and the American economy was still leading the world. Under Trump things have been continuing along the same path.

    Stock Market Records, Wealth Creation- See previous post. This isn't even a separate achievement, Trump sees them as the same thing.

    Deregulation: Rolling Back the Militant Administrative State- This one I will also have to give him. It will have an impact on Americans, and it was one of his campaign promises, and he has done it. Unfortunately, these changes are at the expense of consumers and workers, and to the benefit of Trump's cronies. A corrupt cabinet of thieves is gutting the mandate of government to protect its own citizens. This is an accomplishment, and a horrific one.

    VA Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act (VA Reforms)- This is blatantly untrue. Obama led the major reforms of the VA after neglecting it for years. I have a lot of terrible things to say about Obama, but he did right by veterans in the end. Trump sees us as puppets to parade.

    North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Reforms- What is this talking about? We haven't reformed anything, Trump is just being a dick to Luxemburg, and that is about it. It mentions that only 5 countries met their obligations, well that number hasn't changed. It says he has gall, which I guess is true, but it hasn't led to any results other then angering our closest allies.

    81 Signed Legislative Accomplishments- So Trump signs more things then he reads. Good for him I guess. Presidents don't pass bills, Congress does. Considering the GOP controls both houses, why is this a surprise.

    Final tally, three actual accomplishments, two of which are horrifying, three complete failures listed as accomplishments, and a bunch of things he had nothing to do with.

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    It is relevant because it is a perfect display of liberal double standards and fake ass moral high grounds.
    Don't forget, Bill wouldve been in the White House too if Crooked got elected. I saw zero liberal media attention regarding bill clintons sex scanalds during the presidental campaign.
    You voted for a less-moral, less conservative version of Bills Clinton.

    Let me know when you finally realize it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I can't wait for the full investigation, and the public questioning of Trump on his affairs with porn stars. It should make for great reality television.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    I can't wait for the full investigation, and the public questioning of Trump on his affairs with porn stars. It should make for great reality television.
    I'd love to see the interview he has with Mueller on pay-per-view. It's going to be glorious, like watching a phoenix die in a brilliant flash, except here we have Trump who looks like a melted wax sculpture of Hillary Clinton during a bad hair day and the brilliant flash will Trump lying himself into an even deeper hole.

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    For christ's sake people this isn't hard.

    Why is Trump's behavior different? Because the GOP constantly plays the "family values/moral majority" card.

    Why does Clinton get a pass (which he doesn't really) and Trump doesn't? Because of the rampant hypocrisy around it all.

    So no, you don't get to do your stupid false equivalence bullshit.
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  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    I posted it in another thread already but sure, here super special again for you
    Wow these accomplishments really need someone to look up what is considered an accomplishment.

    Would have been nice to get your actual opinion on what he accomplished instead of some random opinion piece.


    Tax Cuts and Jobs Act Accomplishment, undetermined. Since we already know the expected impact which is mostly negative.

    81 Signed Legislative Accomplishments signing exec orders is an accomplishment you used to complain about Obama doing and exceeding his authority. Can't call them accomplishments without examining each one individually. Sorry


    North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Reforms Nothing has been changed other than funding. No structural agreements have been changed or signed by other countries. What has changed? Taking credit for other countries doing things? i mean really?




    Deregulation: Rolling Back the Militant Administrative State lol not an accomplishment when its associated to a conspiracy theory. Laughable at best.

    Deregulation like signing orders cannot be considered an accomplishment without looking at each one individually.

    Resurgence of U.S. Economy — the American Spirit
    Stock Market Records, Wealth Creation
    So far the resurgence is less "surgence" either on par with last year or less then last year. How do you measure spirit? i mean really? Less jobs, same average sub 3% gdp, Lower stock market gains then obama's first year, still wage growth lower than inflation, workforce participation rate unchanged (remember 42% unemployment?) etc etc

    52% of americans have nothing invested in the stock market in any way shape or form. The top 10% owns 85% of the "stock market" wealth.
    This is an accomplishment for whom? I mean he did not even beat Obama's first year stock market gains and you considered his economy a failure!!!



    Historic Reduction in Illegal Immigration So he accomplished less than Obama and deported less and this is considered an accomplishment? He has changed nothing in the law so what did he do? really?


    Repealed Individual Mandate taking away health insurance from millions is an accomplishment then you and that reporter are a sicko.

    Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) drilling for oil we did not need, whoot for corporate profits....!!

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    You voted for a less-moral, less conservative version of Bills Clinton.
    Can't really dispute that, Clinton reduced the deficit to zero.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  11. #291
    I like how some Trump supporters have just completely given up and are now pretending it's perfectly okay for a presidential candidate to pay off a hooker that he cheated with.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    For christ's sake people this isn't hard.

    Why is Trump's behavior different? Because the GOP constantly plays the "family values/moral majority" card.

    Why does Clinton get a pass (which he doesn't really) and Trump doesn't? Because of the rampant hypocrisy around it all.

    So no, you don't get to do your stupid false equivalence bullshit.
    Well, it's not just that. It's also the fact that Trump is under investigation, part of which deals with the idea that he can be blackmailed. He's basically been blackmailed, or at the very least had his lawyer attempt to stave off a potential blackmail.

    This is beyond a moral issue. It reinforces the notion that Trumps past behavior, ties, dealings etc constitutes a national security risk.

  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by President View Post
    It is relevant because it is a perfect display of liberal double standards and fake ass moral high grounds.
    Don't forget, Bill wouldve been in the White House too if Crooked got elected. I saw zero liberal media attention regarding bill clintons sex scanalds during the presidental campaign.
    Just because you like beating a dead horse doesn't mean the rest of us are glue sniffers who just can't seem to let go events that where settled years ago.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    I like how some Trump supporters have just completely given up and are now pretending it's perfectly okay for a presidential candidate to pay off a hooker that he cheated with.
    For any other politician during any other period of time this would have ruined him and his political career, but nowadays we have people saying how awesome it is that he did it and it doens't matter 'cause "he's doing his job", which is also laughable as Trump does no job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    For any other politician during any other period of time this would have ruined him and his political career, but nowadays we have people saying how awesome it is that he did it and it doens't matter 'cause "he's doing his job", which is also laughable as Trump does no job.
    Taking golf vacations is exhausting. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW!

    Well it's atleast refreshing to see some of these folks drop the facade of moral crusaders.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    I'd love to see the interview he has with Mueller on pay-per-view. It's going to be glorious, like watching a phoenix die in a brilliant flash, except here we have Trump who looks like a melted wax sculpture of Hillary Clinton during a bad hair day and the brilliant flash will Trump lying himself into an even deeper hole.
    Here's the most hilarious part... his supporters will not care. I have watched the level of cognitive dissonance in this country skyrocket in a matter of a decade. There are people whom I have known my entire life, and I watched them become radicalized in as short as a few months. One of the guys is a fucking doctor, and he refuses to recognize factual evidence, even when it's literally the voice and transcript of someone speaking. Sure, I expect this from some 19-year-old edgelord, like we have on this site. I expect it from racist hillbillies. I shouldn't have to expect it from a guy with over 20 published scientific papers.

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    Stormy Daniels manager: She ‘is going to tell her story’

    A manager for Stormy Daniels said Wednesday that the former adult film star is "going to tell her story" about an alleged affair with President Trump.

    Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, in recent weeks has avoided answering questions about her past claims of a sexual relationship with Trump. Media scrutiny has intensified following a report that Daniels was paid in 2016 not to talk about the alleged affair.

    But her manager, Gina Rodriguez, said that Michael Cohen, a personal lawyer for Trump, violated the terms of a non-disclosure agreement with Daniels when he disclosed this week that he paid the porn star $130,000 of his own money.

    "Everything is off now, and Stormy is going to tell her story," Rodriguez said, according to CNN.
    Just so we're all clear: Trump married Melania in 2005. The affair happened in 2005. Trump didn't even stay faithful for one year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Stormy Daniels manager: She ‘is going to tell her story’



    Just so we're all clear: Trump married Melania in 2005. The affair happened in 2005. Trump didn't even stay faithful for one year.
    Trump couldn't stay faithful to the rules of tic-tac-toe.

    I can't wait to hear what comes from this. Plus this could be yet another thing that could get Trump in front of Mueller if he paid with campaign funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Trump couldn't stay faithful to the rules of tic-tac-toe.
    They paid 130k to keep someone quiet, to then be the ones to confirm it. The porn star had honored the deal, Trump’s lawyer couldn’t.
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