7.3.5 Dungeons forced (?) Personal loot.

[Xeh.-]

We go into low level dungeons on our 110 toons and cant opt in for bosses to drop whatever loot but only stuff for our class? Like LFRs?

Is this correct? Going into LFRs with alts for appearances porpouses was annoying enough, now dungeons too?

Anyone here checked this in the PTR?

[Kaesebrezen]

How does that affect your appearance collection?

[Triden]

The problem is that collecting transmog from dungeons where personal loot is forced is problematic. For example, a Rogue or Demon Hunter who can equip leather healing pieces and use them for transmog will no longer ever see them drop. Instead, you have to run the dungeon with a leather wearing class that can choose the healing specialization. I've run into this problem with some transmogs in HFC that I've wanted. Furthermore, with personal loot you're not guaranteed to have an item drop per boss (it still calculates drop chance as if 5 people were in the dungeon). So, rather than getting 5 blues guaranteed (even if they aren't what you're after), you could end up with literally no boss drops the entire run (I've had that happen on some WoD dungeons). Is it game-breaking? No. But it's damn annoying.

[Deleted]

This is most likely only in LFD. Manually entering a dungeon probably will not force PL on you.

[Dalheim]

The problem is that collecting transmog from dungeons where personal loot is forced is problematic. For example, a Rogue or Demon Hunter who can equip leather healing pieces and use them for transmog will no longer ever see them drop. Instead, you have to run the dungeon with a leather wearing class that can choose the healing specialization. I've run into this problem with some transmogs in HFC that I've wanted. Furthermore, with personal loot you're not guaranteed to have an item drop per boss (it still calculates drop chance as if 5 people were in the dungeon). So, rather than getting 5 blues guaranteed (even if they aren't what you're after), you could end up with literally no boss drops the entire run (I've had that happen on some WoD dungeons). Is it game-breaking? No. But it's damn annoying.

They've changed most items to have both Agil/Intellect though, so there should be no difference with healing/dps stuff for leather.

[Polarthief]

This is most likely only in LFD. Manually entering a dungeon probably will not force PL on you.

It has since Legion started and will continue to do so. I don't understand why if you're alone/with a full pre-made group, you can choose whatever loot setting you want, like raids. Makes farming transmog out of dungeons much, much slower.

[Lime]

This has been in the game since early Legion for Classic dungeons. So now it's all dungeons?

[Sigxy]

Well... kinda annoying for RPers who wants to get some BoP items that are not the same armour type that they use. Hopefully they can allow in non-LFD groups to change that.

[SirCowdog]

Did anyone happen to check the PTR while it was up? Can you still set loot rules manually if you're in your own group?

[Triden]

They've changed most items to have both Agil/Intellect though, so there should be no difference with healing/dps stuff for leather.

Well, that's good at least! It's still annoying doing dungeon farms for transmog where you get literally nothing from bosses though. Again, not game-breaking, but less fun in general I'd say. Very frustrating if you're an enchanter trying to get mats too. Not sure how the changes that normalize enchanting mats affect that, but I imagine it'll still be an issue. Has anyone checked that?

[Lochton]

For dungeons, it has been so for a while.

[Xeh.-]

For dungeons, it has been so for a while.

Why would they add that bottom line on the Patch notes if "they have been for a while"?

I can 100% confirm very old dungeons dropped items that were in no way, shape or form for my class.

What you mean applies to (for instance) WoD dungeons, in which personal loot was already applied to the system. This change is global for all dungeons.

You should probably read more instead of coming to these forums to increase your Posts number by writing down things you have no idea about. Or you think I made a thread just for the sake of giving my opinion instead of checking before I posted? This is not a "give your opinion" thread, its more about information.

[Nuba]

There is always the oh-noes-my-randomuselessthing police to complain about every single good change blizzard has ever done because of some 0.1% they claim to be (but in truth aren't)

[Deleted]

Why would they add that bottom line on the Patch notes if "they have been for a while"?

I can 100% confirm very old dungeons dropped items that were in no way, shape or form for my class.

What you mean applies to (for instance) WoD dungeons, in which personal loot was already applied to the system. This change is global for all dungeons.

You should probably read more instead of coming to these forums to increase your Posts number by writing down things you have no idea about. Or you think I made a thread just for the sake of giving my opinion instead of checking before I posted? This is not a "give your opinion" thread, its more about information.

Personal loot was enabled in Classic dungeons, but not in BC, WotLK, Cata or MoP dungeons. Now it will be enabled in all of them.

[Xeh.-]

There is always the oh-noes-my-randomuselessthing police to complain about every single good change blizzard has ever done because of some 0.1% they claim to be (but in truth aren't)

Cool man very cool. But you dont know If I am "the 0.1%" or not.

Btw.... personal loot in old dungeons is a very good change, It would be nice if we could have the regular group loot option for soloing content, thats all.

I am very sorry that you think I am complaining here. Not your regular 101 Mmo Champion Poster.

[Analle]

I can 100% confirm very old dungeons dropped items that were in no way, shape or form for my class.

Legion introduced Personal Loot for some low lvl instances, I can 101% confirm I've gotten personal loot drops from some instances.

You should probably read more instead of coming to these forums to increase your Posts number by writing down things you have no idea about.

Stop insulting people over the Forums, thinking you're always right and everyone else is wrong.

[Xeh.-]

Legion introduced Personal Loot for some low lvl instances, I can 101% confirm I've gotten personal loot drops from some instances.



Stop insulting people over the Forums, thinking you're always right and everyone else is wrong.

Person A makes a thread about a patch note change.

Person B comes to say that change is old.

Why would blizzard add it to patch notes if its old?

That guy just wants to be present in the thread for no reason giving absolutely no useful information, not even an opinion.

Legion introduced Personal Loot for some low lvl instances, I can 101% confirm I've gotten personal loot drops from some instances.

Yes, but some very old dungeons are still working outside this rule, at least outside LFD system. Thats exactly what I meant to say. This change seems to turn every dungeon into WoD dungeons, or Legion dungeons.

[MrExcelion]

Will this affect transmog farming in Gnomer/Uldaman, etc?

[SupBrah]

This is most likely only in LFD. Manually entering a dungeon probably will not force PL on you.

If anything you can probably still make a "dummy group" in LFG (which puts you in a party) and then set it to group loot.

[Xeh.-]

If anything you can probably still make a "dummy group" in LFG (which puts you in a party) and then set it to group loot.

Thats the whole issue here. Dungeons do not allow this. An example is WoD dungeons, if you try to put group loot it doesnt allow it even if you make a dummy group.