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  1. #41
    Lol, its always the Russians.
    Can't believe how many people are brainwashed by the media.

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaqur View Post
    Lol, its always the Russians.
    Can't believe how many people are brainwashed by the media.
    lol and the latest they are going with is this...

    "EMAGERD DEM RUSKIZ BUILT 100 MEGATON NUKE SUBMARINE DRONE LIEK A TERMINATOR N SHIT!"
    https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wor...n-Donald-Trump



    Seriously...50 megaton (tsar bomba) is biggest explosion ever, the blast wave circled the globe several times n the mushroom cloud went into the stratosphere n shit..nobody is doing that again n twice that is just stupid... Smaller n more numerous nukes, faster n more devious flights n avoidance, not bigger n bigger explosions..then there's the problem of delivery method of 100 megaton..to put it into a drone? Drone tech is unreliable, putting nukes in them would be insane.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    He insidiously didn't veto no-flight-zone there (while not being President at the time and also criticising that in media), and thus obviously complicit!
    The people from libya sailing to the EU, is in part, the immigrants who got stuck, when the route from turkey to Greece, was shut down. But alot of those also sailing from libya, are random africans, who joined the exodus, when everyone else started traveling up here...

    Putin and Assad, probably had some sort of involvement with the syrians coming up here, but the africans etc. who are now massing in Italy, are just ppl who joined when everyone went to the EU.

    Putin and russia, doing their thing with the disinformation campaigns, we alrdy know that for a fact, so there isnt much idea in arguing about it.

    The russians on mmo champ, will claim its an EU disinformation campaign against russia, and the EU will refute that claim, because we know russia has meddled in "our" affairs. I just hope we can get some sort of system, that sorts all the BS they post on western websites, like twitter / FB etc.

    Would be nice if we could make a reversed china internet shield, and just shut russia out, so that they could only see / read articles and such on Western websites, but would not be able to post / write / hack etc.

    This shouldnt be a permanent thing, only when we have elections and such ;-)
    "It takes a vast amount of self control to be this dangerous" he said.

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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Syria's Assad a Shia drove Syrian Sunnis out of Syria and into the EU like cattle. In exchange Putin protected Assad's tiny faction by sending Russian troops into Syria.

    The Brexit vote was very close, you can't tell me that concern about all those refugees didn't swing the Brexit vote in favor of "leave the EU".

    That and this propaganda campaign.




    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8164526.html

    An “orchestrated” propaganda campaign by the Russian government has been “extremely successful” at spreading disinformation throughout the European Union, the European Commission has warned.

    Julian King, the Commission’s security chief, said the EU had identified “3,500 examples of pro-Kremlin disinformation contradicting publicly available facts repeated in many languages on many occasions”.

    Mr King said the Russian military viewed information as “another type of armed force” and that the EU would unveil a new strategy for combating fake news in the spring of 2018.


    “There seems, frankly, little doubt, that the pro-Kremlin disinformation campaign is an orchestrated strategy – delivering the same disinformation stories in as many languages as possible, through as many channels as possible, as often as possible,” Mr King told MEPs at the European Parliament in Strasbourg.

    “We have to remain vigilant. The purpose of a disinformation campaign is to get people to believe that the disinformation is fact, is credible. If we look at opinion polls measuring how many people accept obviously disinformation planted in pro-Kremlin media, then unfortunately we have to conclude that Russian disinformation can be extremely successful.”

    MEPs discussed the issue of Russian disinformation on Wednesday afternoon in a two-hour debate. Sandra Kalniete, a Latvian politician and vice chair of the European Parliament’s largest group, the centre-right European People’s Party, said the EU needed to step up its efforts and increase funding to its cybersecurity taskforce.

    “Given the political dynamics in Washington, European states will have to take the lead in any collective action vis-à-vis the Kremlin and setting international rules for cyberspace,” she said, alluding the US president Donald Trump’s alleged links to the Russian government.

    Ms Kalniete said societies needed to be made “more resilient” through transparency and increased regulation, also blaming the rise of Facebook and social media for the effectiveness of propaganda.

    “The world’s richest and most powerful publisher, Facebook, has replaced editors with algorism – shifting societies away from critical thinking whilst making billions from our clicks,” she said.

    “I am convinced that quality journalism should be supported by the governments, including the EU, because otherwise it will disappear and leave us at the mercy of the Kremlin and other trolls who have learned how to play the social media game.”


    A number of MEPs mentioned the UK’s Brexit referendum as being a possible victim of disinformation. Jeppe Kofod, a socialist MEP from Denmark, suggested that the 2019 European Parliament elections would likely be interfered with.

    “Next year the citizens of Europe will elect a new European Parliament. This raises an uncomfortable question: how many seats will Russia get?” he said.

    “Let’s not kid ourselves, Russian meddling in democratic elections is no longer the exception, it is becoming the norm. From the US presidential election to Brexit, the hands of the Kremlin have been busy dancing along keyboards, spreading disinformation – the full extent of which is yet to be understood by all of us.”

    Gerard Batten, Ukip MEP and Brexit spokesperson said he believed that “Mr Putin is a gangster who runs a gangster state.”

    But he added: “You are seeking to create a scapegoat for your own unpopularity with the people’s of Europe. Don’t blame the Russians for your own mistakes.”

    He described Russian disinformation as “a distraction” and accused the EU of being “the authors of your own unpopularity”.
    Stop watching CNN and BBC plx. Asasd has majority support even though Syria is majority sunni. The only reason he needed Russian backup is because USA is backing ISIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    “Let’s not kid ourselves, Russian meddling in democratic elections is no longer the exception, it is becoming the norm. From the US presidential election to Brexit, the hands of the Kremlin have been busy dancing along keyboards, spreading disinformation – the full extent of which is yet to be understood by all of us.”
    Russia did not interfere with the US election. It was the Democrats that spread that rumor with the proven fake dossier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slykila View Post
    Russia did not interfere with the US election. It was the Democrats that spread that rumor with the proven fake dossier.
    This, this way they abused FISA. Dems are digging their grave, its so funny, even when they did tape Mr. Trump and his team, they still found nothing.

    #releasethememo

    Inb4. memo is made by the Russians.

  7. #47
    For Brexit it was

    52% leave
    48% remain

    That's only 4%

    Assad and Putin driving the Syrian Sunnis into the EU had to be worth 2-3% percentage points, some people were concerned about the whole refugee thing.

    Surely the Russian anti-EU disinformation campaign had to be worth 1-2% percentage points.

    Back in the old days Europe would've went to war over something like this.
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