Indeed, I didn't realize he was selling a book. Well, can't blame a person for trying to capitalize. Wish he didn't have the alt-right following him simply because he's willing to criticize the philosophy of the left. From what he implies, he's a classical liberal which is far from contemporary conservatism, especially that pushed by the alt left.
Might want to ask the real question is why does no one want to debate him besides TV/Media personalities? Because what he is saying isn't important, it is there to sell an idea to his group, and he isn't going to change his opinion on the subject.
Empirical data to prove a point is possible for almost any argument if you go into the data seeking and specific outcome. If he had anything real to say, that was meaningful, real people would debate him.
That is the biggest issue with all these types of people talking opinion on social issues the only other people they can get to debate are other people doing the same thing. So there are no intellectuals willing to waste their time or go cash seeking, instead those people are working on solutions to problems not trying to sell books. Thankfully youtube, etc are all there to give a free platform to every person who has an opinion on a topic.
I appreciate the very thoughtful response (Like seriously, it was a great response).
My issue lies with his dialog regarding Alpha and Beta humans. The source he got that from has been debunked, but he still rolls with it. If he isn't willing to accept the new findings, and correct his stance, then I have to assume there are other things he is saying that are incorrect.
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Gotcha. I decided to watch a few mins of the interview and she obviously had some kind of agenda before hand. The leaps she took were kind of insane. I may be missing some context regarding the guy that lead to those questions, but in the context regarding that conversation, it was pretty large leaps.
What he found data to prove a point, touted it as pure proof, when debunked won't stop using it because it would shatter his opinion. You lie! This is all of them. It is mind blowing that people can't pick up on this trick that has been around for eons (hyperbole). It is the classic snake oil salesman routine.
They aren't following him sharply. That's just another lie that people like Cathy like to tell people in order to demonize him.
Hell, she does that in the interview. Says he has bad people following him, and then insinuates he's a bad man because of them, and that he needs to demonize his following because she's offended by them.
Word up! Yeah, I haven't paid much attention to that stuff so I'll have to look into it.
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Indeed, it was more like an inqusition. If he is a terrible person, we won't know from the interview because it made him seem quite the opposite.
The conversation might be, but a lot of these people having the conversation aren't important enough to actually influence more than a small group. The conversation is important, but who is having it is a lot more important. This guy and Milo aren't, do they have a following yes, is it huge enough to create a law? Or large enough to sway a population? No probably not.
They needed someone as famous as Donald Trump to make that work, and that is going to back fire, because now we get fun presidential candidates like Oprah. The right is going to love that.
Again, conversations are important, but who is having them is equally as important. People have been warping reality with their narrow fringes for decades as well, but they rarely have a serious effect on the mass population as a whole. They win small victories for themselves then end up vanishing away as more people debunk them over and over again.
Here, we've known about this well before. Take this mocking example about it. Also, NSFW.
https://youtu.be/1seThIG34R8
It is the truth, both sides of the fence is trying to make paper. Nothing more, nothing less. Being a villain sells as much as being a hero.
Dramatic? Nay, it was as if he was being interrogated. It's significant because it has went viral and was probably watched by a lot of people during the broadcast. From what I gather, he regularly derides the alt-right and conservatism as we know it in general. He may be a crappy person, but for anyone seeing the guy for the first time in that interview, it sure as heck doesn't seem like it.
That's only a small part of his agenda. I'm not saying he's an idiot, just stating the obvious fact that he earns his money by saying what right wingers/islamo-/transphobes want to hear and raging against "SJW-Madness".
His funding through Patreon has increased from $1,000 per month in August 2016 to $14,000 by January 2017 to more than $50,000 by July 2017.[13][36][39]
The Rebel Media launched an Indiegogo campaign on Peterson's behalf.[74] The campaign raised $195,000 by its end on May 6, equivalent to over two years of research funding.[75] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rebel_Media
Yep, he has an agenda, and its serving him well.
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He has many points supporting his views, and isn't really dependent on any singular one; his worldview is quite multi-layered so even with any single fact debunked he can easily explain it away one way or another.
Plus you got to actually understand what part and in which way was debunked to see if original assertion still has any merit; and he is actually has enough merit to make such assessment himself.
He seems to be driven more by overwhelmingly positive response to what he said then by any particular desire to "sell" things; after all, he didn't actually expect it to blow up this way when he opposed that bill (and i don't think anyone could in his place)...