ICE arrests US Army Veteran for deportation.

[Daelak]

Usual boot lickers not worshiping the ground of a veteran? Oh he's a brown dude? Seems right.

Basically, yes. These model citizens have never engaged in illicit activities or lived in a neighborhood where undercover drug operations are common. When rubber hits the road, it's skin color > serving one's country.

[Deleted]

Remember the Alamo guys.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Where did it say he had a brain injury? He was arrested for transporting cocaine before any test was done. PTSD seems to be a free card played when ever someone fucks up. Even if he has it, it doesn’t excuse his illegal behavior. But I wouldn’t expect people who never served or saw combat to understand. It’s as real as video games to most of you.

It says further down in the article that he was trying to get leave to stay because of the ptsd and brain injury, even in American prisons I don’t expect them to ignore medical issues and not test him.

And I don’t think ptsd is an excuse for his crimes but kicking out some one who faught for your country and came back damaged because of it just because there brown seems wrong.

[sarahtasher]

Basically, yes. These model citizens have never engaged in illicit activities or lived in a neighborhood where undercover drug operations are common. When rubber hits the road, it's skin color > serving one's country.

Helping veterans means buying flags and approving useless wars.

[Beazy]

I thought ICE was only tracking down and deporting non citizens for violent drug offences? The article says he sold coke to an officer. Is that considered violent? Im shocked that foreigners who fight for the flag don't get to cut to the top of the citizenship line, that's pretty fucking shitty if you ask me.

[Orange Joe]

Yeah the article.

Can you quote the second charge? I'm still only seeing 1 charge.


infraction =/= charge.

[minteK917]

Helping veterans means buying flags and approving useless wars.

You forgot stand up in front of the flag, the most important of all. You can let them rot and die alone in a old house, but you gotta make sure you stand in front of that flag of freedom. Cant do what ever you want, just not in front of this sacred icon.

[Crissi]

I dont see the problem, really. Stay clean, kids. He didnt seem to do any of the stuff he needed to do anyways beyond "join the military".

[Toogoodman]

No, it doesn’t - not anymore. You typically get it once you complete Basic, sometimes AIT. Military personnel are eligible for citizenship under special provisions. When Bush was President, he made it so individuals with one day of “honorable active duty service” can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident.

Well thats what it might say, some of the guys in my last unit before I got out had been waiting years to get their papers. However, the government does move slow as shit when it doesnt benefit them.

[minteK917]

I dont see the problem, really. Stay clean, kids. He didnt seem to do any of the stuff he needed to do anyways beyond "join the military".

So you mean he should receive some kind of punishment for his crime... something like time away in a confined area.. something like a prison so to speak. Oh wait he already did that? He already gave your justice system the alternative, let him die. So either let him die, execute him or let him free when his sentence is over like anyone else?

[Super Kami Dende]

So.. If he was willing to serve America, why did he never get his Citizenship?

It always blows my mind at these people who got given an easy as fuck way out with Obama who didn't take it and are now crying because "MUH DEPORTATIONS!"

So you never became a Citizen and then committed crimes in the Country you are technically Illegally residing in? Sounds like a case of "tough luck fuckwit"

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Basically, yes. These model citizens have never engaged in illicit activities or lived in a neighborhood where undercover drug operations are common. When rubber hits the road, it's skin color > serving one's country.

I mean, there is your answer right there. CITIZENS. If he was a Citizen then went to Jail he wouldn't be having his problem would he?

Adios amigo.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

So.. If he was willing to serve America, why did he never get his Citizenship?

It always blows my mind at these people who got given an easy as fuck way out with Obama who didn't take it and are now crying because "MUH DEPORTATIONS!"

So you never became a Citizen and then committed crimes in the Country you are technically Illegally residing in? Sounds like a case of "tough luck fuckwit"

He was in jail for 15 years I don’t think Obama is relevant.

[Crissi]

So you mean he should receive some kind of punishment for his crime... something like time away in a confined area.. something like a prison so to speak. Oh wait he already did that? He already gave your justice system the alternative, let him die. So either let him die, execute him or let him free when his sentence is over like anyone else?

that aplies to citizens. As an immigrant, one of the additional conditions to stay is to behave. minor shit I dont give a crap about, but drug charges are major, and I rather not have that kind of person when we already have citizens with that problem without adding more.

[Elba]

In prison for a drug conviction and now playing the boo-hoo card. Adios, Juan.

Have you served?

[FlatBootyJudy]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l....co/xheimPemlO

“Miguel Perez Jr., 39, a Chicago resident who served two tours of duty in Afghanistan and recently finished a prison term on a drug conviction, had sought to remain in the U.S., arguing his life would be in danger if he were deported to Mexico, where drug cartels target veterans with combat experience to work on their behalf, or else.”

“Perez said he believes deportation means certain death and the only thing left to do is commence an “extreme fast” until he is granted relief.”

”"If it comes down to me being deported, I would rather leave this world in the country I gave my heart for,” Perez said in an interview from the detention center where he has been in custody for the last year.”


The man would rather die than be deported. This is Trumps small government at work and his so called support for the people of the US. It’s fucking sickening. So now they’re gonna deprive 2 children of their father who’s served the country and send him to his death.

Perhaps he shouldn't have committed a felony? I don't see the problem here.

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Have you served?

Have you? Why does it matter?

[triplesdsu]

Good riddance. Wanted to deal drugs and now faces the consequences. Sucks to be him but choices matter. Let's see how well his hunger strike goes over in Mexico.

[Elba]

Have you? Why does it matter?

He put his live on the line for America. He has done more for your country than president Bonespurs and many others who would see him gone.

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that aplies to citizens. As an immigrant, one of the additional conditions to stay is to behave. minor shit I dont give a crap about, but drug charges are major, and I rather not have that kind of person when we already have citizens with that problem without adding more.

Have you served?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Yeah, never been a fan of you serve the military that you automatically get citizenship, I mean sure maybe in a time of war or something, like WW2, but just signing up for a couple of years is really not that big of a deal. It still a hell of a thing to do take nothing away from those that serve, but short of this guy simply being deported I don't see this as being an issue.

[Mercane]

Honestly, though, not all of Mexico is like Juárez. There are some really beautiful and peaceful places, you just need to go down south more - away from the US border.

Even Juarez isn't nearly as bad as the media or public stigma makes it out to be, I eat lunch there several times a week.

Yeah, never been a fan of you serve the military that you automatically get citizenship, I mean sure maybe in a time of war or something, like WW2, but just signing up for a couple of years is really not that big of a deal. It still a hell of a thing to do take nothing away from those that serve, but short of this guy simply being deported I don't see this as being an issue.

They don't 'automatically' get citizenship. They still have to test out for it, wait in the forever long line to get processed, and jump through all the hoops that everyone else does, they just have that Military Service rider that gives them a small bit of favor in expediting the process.

[Toogoodman]

As said earlier, if something went wrong and it didn’t happen, soldiers are supposed to ensure that the paperwork gets done. Too many rely on their superiors to help them do it, but they can’t hold their hands through everything. Also, anyone in the Military will tell you that paperwork gets lost, delayed, etc and sometimes a solider needs to walk it themselves (as far as they can).

Pretty much the situation everywhere... Also, if you're a private you cant force the chain of command to push your paperwork, units preparing for deployments, NTC, extended training exercises don't find things like this a priority and it can sit on desks for months or years. Its not a rational thought, to say that joes should be pushing officers to do their jobs, I had an open door policy as an LT, but do you think E5s or E6s let their joes come to me with issues? That comical, and the extreme disconnect between the lower enlisted and even junior NCOs was a leading factor in me not continuing my commission, it was an absolute joke.