Originally Posted by
sarahtasher
(This is a thread to get a slightly different subject than ''SJW'' or ''Migrants'' or ''a youtuber said X'' )
It keeps popping, here and elsewhere, that the Red Army (or for that matter the Viet-Cong/PVNA, or the Chinese Communists) did not actually ''won'', because they took more casualties, or that they somehow ''cheated'' because there was the winter or because they were more numerous .
While the tactics and training remained relatively poor throughout the war, that the Red Army used crude human wave tactics (that even the North Koreans or Chinese Communists actually used such tactics remain to be seen) is a misconception put forward by German generals after the war. The Red Army strategy after 1942, while not always served by good battlefield tactics, was markedly superior to the German one, as the supposedly crude Soviet managed time after time to catch the Germans wrong footed.
Operation ''Citadel'' and ''Bagration'' come to the mind. The supposedly inferior Red Army lure the Germans in one masterful trap in one case and in the other managed to utterly misled them about the direction of the attack. For a supposedly superior army, the Heer never managed to get another battle plan than ''Cannae style encirclements'....