The first void elves were blood elves, but the rest?

[ravenmoon]

The first void elves, and the void elf leadership were former blood elves -but the rest? The new ones we roll? Are they? It is looking like they might not necessarily be.

Telogrus rift shows you both high elves and blood elves come to the rift to pursue void studies, if you go to another island it shows new initiates being trained. The opening cinematic doesn't mention at all that you were one of Umbric's original followers, as such you could have come from anywhere, a high elf, a blood elf - a DK , a DH - you've taken interest in the void, and if a blood elf you've been expelled for it, but nothing is to stop you from also having been a former high elf - the opening story just tells of how the race starts.

The only bit left is the purple skin, and their seems to be an explanation for this, the power absorbed in training in the rift I suspect gives the transformation. Several clues point to this. Umbric and his followers, the first lot to be trained and the first genesis of the race are transformed by absorbing the power of the void tied to this rift. Alleria mentions that Umbric's power is formidable, and she's the one that's absorbed a fallen naaru and the heart of a void demi-god. That's how she gained her powers, not in the rift, and thus the way she gained them is why her skin isn't purple, at least not yet. It neatly explains why new void elves turn this way but Alleria doesn't.

Now none of this is shown, but then we aren't given the first 20 levels of the void elf experience. So we must piece it together. I suspect we are basically either high elf wayfarers or Silvermoon Scholars that come in search of Alleria/alliance to study this new power freely. In the training as you progress absorbing more void power you will eventually transform, probably in a final trial, thus your skin tone/colour.

This has big implications for the entire group, they have growth potential, without needing to change the starting area or story, someone coming in 2 expansions later can have now transitioned and the whole experience would be valid.

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Lack of lore is not proof of anything. Void Elves were a rush job and it shows. To construct it as anything more than that is just plain silly. The only potential here is that of head canon since Void Elves were evidently a last minute addition that Blizzard didn't bother to really develop.

Void Elves are purple because Ion Hazzikostas loathes the idea of playable High Elves on the Alliance side. Alleria isn't purple because she's not playable. Alleria's entire Mac'Aree story line probably finished production before Void Elves were even conceived of, hence the difference between the two. There's unlikely to be anything more to it.

Until Blizzard gives us some actual lore here, there is very little of anything to be said.

[DaHomieG]

They're basically saying that Void Elves = High Elves so the crybabies that want High Elves will finally stfu.

[Verdugo]

Seeing High Elves, the group that left Quel'thalas just because they couldnt stand feeding on mana critters, embracing void is baffling.

[Varodoc]

This opens up a lot of Roleplay potential. Most Void Elves RPers i see on my server are former Blood Elves, but there is nothing stopping you from roleplaying as a High Elf who became a Void Elf. I would also have to wonder if there were some High Elves amongst Magister Umbric's group. Maybe Umbric realized the potential of findining alliances beyond the Horde. Or maybe some members within the Silver Covenant heard of Umbric's exile and sympathized with his cause, since the foolish Rommath wasn't able to.

Void Elves are purple because Ion Hazzikostas loathes the idea of playable High Elves on the Alliance side. Alleria isn't purple because she's not playable. Alleria's entire Mac'Aree story line probably finished production before Void Elves were even conceived of, hence the difference between the two. There's unlikely to be anything more to it.

That's because Alleria is a unique type of Void Elf. She absorbed the essence of a dark naaru, unlike the other Ren'dorei, who were turned into Void Elves by a ritual that was supposed to transform them into Ethereals. So this is why Alleria retains her original High Elven form and has a longer Shadowform compared to the other Ren'dorei.

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That's because Alleria is a unique type of Void Elf.

Mate, she's not. Her story arc was just written and produced before Void Elves were even conceived of. Your beloved Ren'dorei were a last minute rush job.

Heck, the associated faction doesn't even have a single elf in it.

[Varodoc]

Her story arc was just written and produced before Void Elves were even conceived of.

Provide a valid and clear source from Blizzard to back your bold statement. Otherwise, I will not take your tantrums and speculation as a fact.

[Deleted]

Seeing High Elves, the group that left Quel'thalas just because they couldnt stand feeding on mana critters, embracing void is baffling.

The Quel'dorei are dead! Long live the Hypocri'dorei!

[Wrien]

Void elves... most uninspiring race ever.. they just came from nowhere. The other allied races make sense, but void elves are just completely void .... : |

Where do they all come from? Did half the population of silvermoon suddenly decide to peer into the void? Can they reproduce?

[Obelisk Kai]

Regardless of your hate or your dislike of Void Elves or how they were conceived or implemented, they are here and they are a thing.

Ravenmoon is right, there is ample evidence that High Elves might have been caught up in the event and become Void Elves.

There is also every chance that the Void Elves will be able to turn any High Elf who is willing into a Void Elf, which may explain the new High Elven NPCs that have appeared in Stormwind consorting with the Void Elves.

It might even be a story hook later on if the Void Elves under Alleria decide that becoming a Void Elf will save ALL of their people whether they want to or not. Void Elves could try and forcibly turn Blood Elves for example.

So yes. If you want to roleplay as a former High Elf who has been turned into a Void Elf, either by being in the initial event or turned later by the Void Elves, I see no reason why you cannot do that.

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Void elves... most uninspiring race ever.. they just came from nowhere. The other allied races make sense, but void elves are just completely void .... : |

Where do they all come from? Did half the population of silvermoon suddenly decide to peer into the void? Can they reproduce?

They probably cannot reproduce, or if they can it would be a very bad idea as any child would probably fall pray to the whispers in utero. Likely they are good for the rest of the game. But if WoW comes to an end and Blizzard progresses the lore beyond the WoW timeframe, I suspect Void Elves will all die out due to the inevitable madness.

[Sangris]

Seeing High Elves, the group that left Quel'thalas just because they couldnt stand feeding on mana critters, embracing void is baffling.

Well that's the best part about it. At least Alliance players can't play the morality card any more.

[Qualia]

Seeing High Elves, the group that left Quel'thalas just because they couldnt stand feeding on mana critters, embracing void is baffling.

What's wrong about using the Void? I don't think they are feeding any Azeroth critters now, are they? The Void, just like the Light, Arcane or Fel (but more similar to Fel, or is it the other way around) is just a source of power. There isn't anything inherently good or bad about using it. It could be hard to control, but that fells on the user's responsibility. They are pretty much the new DK / DH - is the whispers from the Void even worse than the DK's natural urge to cause pain and death or DH's constant whispers in their heads and fits of rages? Alleria's mental health seems to be better than Vandel's in "Illidan".

[ravenmoon]

Well that's the best part about it. At least Alliance players can't play the morality card any more.

They can. Because blizzard built the story of them getting involved with the void out of a motivation to save and defend. Save Azeroth, defend Silvermoon, and not give in to evil.

The reason they do the void is because they can wield it without becoming evil and growing insane. "Magister Umbric: We can harness this power for good" - whiles a lot of people may not understand, because the void is evil and dangerous, however those who can wield it without giving into the whispers are not necessarily evil. It's when you give in to the whispers you go insane and start carrying out the evil will of the void.

The whole point of voidv elves and Alleria is that you do not do this, they are the first to successfully resist its whispers and thus wield its incredible power for their purpose (good or evil) not the void lords' which is pure evil. And the ones you follow and train as/with, they are definitely good. How do I know this? Because they state their intention, as does Alleria who has proved that despite wielding the void she is not evil nor immoral. Not every one understands this so may view them suspiciously or evil. But Velen did not view Alleria as evil for it, he recognised her for wha she was, as does Anduin. Xe'ra may have known it, we are not sure but she being a being of light disqualifies any mortal who would wield the void - perhaps because beings like her know the full pure evil of the void so won't risk any mortal dabbling.

I'm sure you can role play an evil void user, you can be evil and not insane, not controlled by or given in to the void, that's a personal issue. But the ren'dorei are not evil as a group, nor iummoral.

They've explained the whole situaiton about the void enough for you to grasp that the void is bad because of those that drive you to insanity, however the few gifted enough to wield it without succumbing to it, well, they're not bad at least not yet.

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What's wrong about using the Void? I don't think they are feeding any Azeroth critters now, are they? The Void, just like the Light, Arcane or Fel (but more similar to Fel, or is it the other way around) is just a source of power. There isn't anything inherently good or bad about using it. It could be hard to control, but that fells on the user's responsibility. They are pretty much the new DK / DH - is the whispers from the Void even worse than the DK's natural urge to cause pain and death or DH's constant whispers in their heads and fits of rages? Alleria's mental health seems to be better than Vandel's in "Illidan".

Correct again, using the void is not like fel which sacrifices anohter living thing to empower it, the DHs sacrifice the life and beauty in their own flesh to empower their magic, difference between them and say someone like Gul'dan is that they do what Gul'dan did to Draenei and others to demons.

[Sangris]

They can. Because blizzard built the story of them getting involved with the void out of a motivation to save and defend. Save Azeroth, defend Silvermoon, and not give in to evil.

The reason they do the void is because they can wield it without becoming evil and growing insane. "Magister Umbric: We can harness this power for good" - whiles a lot of people may not understand, because the void is evil and dangerous, however those who can wield it without giving into the whispers are not necessarily evil. It's when you give in to the whispers you go insane and start carrying out the evil will of the void.

The whole point of voidv elves and Alleria is that you do not do this, they are the first to successfully resist its whispers and thus wield its incredible power. And the ones you follow and train as/with, they are definitely good. How do I know this? Because they state their intention, as does Alleria who has proved that despite wielding the void she is not evil nor immoral.

I'm sure you can role play an evil void user, you can be evil and not insane, not controlled by or given in to the void, that's a personal issue. But the ren'dorei are not evil as a group, nor iummoral.

They've explained the whole situaiton about the void enough for you to grasp that the void is bad because of those that drive you to insanity, however the few gifted enough to wield it without succumbing to it, well, they're not bad at least not yet.

You are talking about the Blood Elves that became Void Elves though, I was referring to the High Elves.

[Voidwielder]

Meme race is a meme. There is no background lore you can extract like you can with Worgen or Nightborne.

[Deleted]

The Void is a dark and vampiric force driven to devour all energy, to twist creation inward to feed upon itself. We need to stop the "Void is just another energy" BS, it's a primordial version of Fel.

The High Elves are completely hypocrites.

[Sangris]

The High Elves are completely hypocrites.

Are you surprised, though?

[Deleted]

Are you surprised, though?

Not really, no, they are elves after all.

[delus]

Aethas Sunreaver shows a strange infatuation with the void on the vindicar. Perhaps all thalasian elves are naturally drawn to the void. Maybe their transformation from night elves wasn't entirely due to the sunwell.

[ravenmoon]

You are talking about the Blood Elves that became Void Elves though, I was referring to the High Elves.

Regardless, they can still play the morality card, if htey understand what is going on, so can the ren'dorei. But I see your point, if they truly understand, they would be less hateful towards the blood elves for what they did, becuase whiles what the blood elves did was not quite hte same .. not hte smae lvel of nobility - blood elves sucked on other living things to preserve their own addiction, it wasn't even necessary to save their own lives, and it wasn't to save the world like the DHs, it was to "survive" , rather sate an addiction.

However I can see them being ab it more understanding now because fel was considered no go, and not allowed cos of how danterous and harmful it was, however it is different, back when they started using fel there was no evidence this could be used in a good way or wouldn't utterly corupt your soul, it was illidan's demon hunters who have now prioved that fel won't necessarily corrupt all of you, it will corrupt your physical body, but your soul can be intact through sheer will, beating the internal struggle with the demon ic souls you absorb. However with the void, the very first user, Alleria demonstrates you can contorl, without giving in, and when she rescues Umbric and his lot also helps them find this balance, so from hte outset, the void user maintain their nobler objectives.

So whiles I can see that some highe lves won't be as high minded as previously, they could still also look down on the sin'dorei choices.. the interesting thing is now both high elves and blood elvs become ren'dorei would the high elf bunch lolok down on the blood elf bunch? or would they be so completely bonded by their shared purusit inthis knowledge that it doens't matter, just liek DHS are bonded.