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    Her character is just a fish on land at this point, flip flopping around, having her personality shifting to whatever the situation calls for. She exists not as a developer character now but as a plot device. Need an angry alliance leader who hates the horde, DONE, need a diplomat who's looking to come around, DONE, need someone to match sylvanas in her bitch queen status, DONE!

    She had some character but she died in cata, now she only exists for overly aggressive PvP enthusiasts who only value the story based on their outlook, a sociopathic desire for fighting. This is why lines like 'garrosh did nothing wrong' after he nuked a city or 'jaina did nothing wrong' when she nearly drowned orgrimmar.

    Yeah you people have all the emotional feel for character growth as a four year old breaking Lego towers.
    #boycottchina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sporebat View Post
    Dalaran has never been close to the Horde and there entry was only allowed cause of Belfs if that never happened then Dalaran wouldve been on the side against the Horde but the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    There is no way Austrailia would side with China in any way shape or form just like there is no way Dalaran would ever side with the Horde cause nearly all the council is humans and a few belfs and Helfs.

    Dalaran shouldve stayed out of it i mean after all the weapon was in TELDRASSIL NOT DALARAN so your comment loses steam.
    Ahaha, cute. A: the scenario i made up there was done with 3 country names pulled from a hat, they have no bearing on real world. B: helping one side with something that should be considered for the good of all, locking away a god damned superweapon in a secure location within the boundries of the only side in a conflict that so far has NOT resorted to using nukes, is still pretty fucking neutral.

    C: you seem to have entirely missed the point of my post. I suggest reading comprehension classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    This is why lines like 'garrosh did nothing wrong' after he nuked a city or 'jaina did nothing wrong' when she nearly drowned orgrimmar.

    Yeah you people have all the emotional feel for character growth as a four year old breaking Lego towers.
    Jaina actually did nothing wrong there though. Try to twist it as you will, she did not actually go through with it, at most it was a threat.

    So yeah, Jaina did nothing wrong. (there at least)

    Your line about breaking lego towers there is quite ironic too, pot calling kettle black much?
    Last edited by Rosalynda; 2018-02-10 at 10:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Yeah you people have all the emotional feel for character growth as a four year old breaking Lego towers.
    Oh look, opinions trying to bash opinions.

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    I think she'll become more reasonable if what i think is Anduin's plan comes true.
    For the Alliance, and for Azeroth!

  5. #65
    She abandoned her people, and the entirety of Azeroth, in their most dire hour of need. It doesn't matter what she's been up to. She's a traitor, and should be executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelyron View Post
    She abandoned her people, and the entirety of Azeroth, in their most dire hour of need. It doesn't matter what she's been up to. She's a traitor, and should be executed.
    We really aren't sure what she's been up to, so no.

    But out of curiosity, we killing Thrall too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghargatuloth View Post
    We really aren't sure what she's been up to, so no.
    Since Golden is employed at Blizzard now, I bet her adopted pet character propably went solo on like 10 legion worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I already like Jaina, since Theramore she has become one of my favourite Characters.

    I mean it could be worse, the Alliance could be stuck with a piece of shit like Sylvanas.

    I'm truly hoping there is a showdown between the 2 and Jaina vaporizes that useless piece of undead banshee shit.
    Yeah, Jaina butchering every Sunreaver she could find because of Aethas' actions certainly makes her a much better person. #GarroshDidNothingWrong

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    I love Jaina. Why shouldn't she be pissed at the Horde? To not be affected and changed at all by what happened to Theramore would be very strange. I for one, is looking forward to see Jaina again in the next expansion and see how she is now. She has grown into one of the veteran characters and it has been fun to follow her from a naive young mage in Wc3 to the hard willed badass she is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    1. you will learn in the expansion.
    2. she ditched us during legion for good reason, she has tried to work with the horde MANY times before and every time they have fucked her over for trusting them.
    3. 5.1 was fucked up situation, but they did decide to attack her when she tried to kick them out so it turned into a blood bath. but they did use her neutral city to steal from the alliance
    4. yes they will explore part of her charecter, i dont get why your talking about like you have played all of BFA and are wait5ing the next expansion when we havent even gotten all the zones yet...
    5. again the horde have proven TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME again that they will refuse peace, it was garrosh, then it was garrosh again, then it was sylvanans then it was sylvanans again. who is in charge does not change it and she knows that.
    6. "blind rage" and "not who jaina is" so your version of jaina is a pathetic woman in an abusive relationship who just lays on her back and takes beatings after beatings well saying "no they just, you dont understand him"

    no, she allowed the horde to kill her father and ransack her homeland so they could exist
    she helped the horde against archimonde and got them out of there when they needed to retreat
    she gave baine personal funds to help him retake his home land
    she allowed the horde into her city
    she tried to get the horde to work with the alliance against yog sarron
    she helped the horde hero on draenor (allthough she did not really like to, but she did)
    among other things i may have forgotten
    and do i even need to list the double digit worth of things the horde did back to her?
    I agree 100%.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rendark View Post
    Here we go again. Time for the Jaina is bad and the Jaina did nothing wrong people to fight it out.
    I don't think it's a matter about what she did wrong or right. I think the point is that she's been betrayed so many times and suffered so much, that at this point, anything other than being angry as balls would be bad writing.

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    Jaina is the best thing that happened to the alliance after Lord Garithos.

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    Why does everyone still seem to think it was just the broken isles attacked by the legion? They invaded the entire azeroth. Jaina was likely defending alliance lands the entire time we were fighting on the broken isles. The entire of azeroth was under attack. Just looks at the dam sky on Argus. There are 1000s of legion ships going all over azeroth.
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    Aye mate

  13. #73
    Really don't care if she did anything good or bad, she must die like all the alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghargatuloth View Post
    We really aren't sure what she's been up to, so no.

    But out of curiosity, we killing Thrall too?
    Thrall lost a lot of his power. Jaina is more powerful than ever before. But yes, he should have stayed to fight, too. At least in an advisory capacity. So yes, he's a traitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crudence View Post
    I love Jaina. Why shouldn't she be pissed at the Horde? To not be affected and changed at all by what happened to Theramore would be very strange. I for one, is looking forward to see Jaina again in the next expansion and see how she is now. She has grown into one of the veteran characters and it has been fun to follow her from a naive young mage in Wc3 to the hard willed badass she is now.
    Because she was letting alliance use it as their main port to invade horde lands... If she didn't expect the horde to react to that she is a fucking moron. Hellscream blowing it the fuck up was a perfectly valid attack. He even gave them time to evac civilians.
    Aye mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I'd be fine with Varok being the Warchief. Sylvanas is just a horribly written character that has overstayed her usefulness for 4 expansions.
    She's pure fan service and actually a weight around the Horde's neck. She however does make for a good problem maker whenever Blizzard needs her to be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanablossom View Post

    Hate her?
    Naw, love her!
    Would smash her 10/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelyron View Post
    Thrall lost a lot of his power. Jaina is more powerful than ever before. But yes, he should have stayed to fight, too. At least in an advisory capacity. So yes, he's a traitor.
    she fought elsewhere, as stated above ALL OF AZEROTH was being attacked, as you see on argus thousands of ships fly to azertoh well we are there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airwaves View Post
    Because she was letting alliance use it as their main port to invade horde lands... If she didn't expect the horde to react to that she is a fucking moron. Hellscream blowing it the fuck up was a perfectly valid attack. He even gave them time to evac civilians.
    So if North Korea said to USA "In one week we are dropping a nuke on you", and then did, USA should be happy, because they got a warning? Jaina was the one person in the alliance that tried to advocate peace. She was the one person who tried to open a diplomatic discussion between the two warring factions. And for that she got nuked. And after that she said "fuck diplomacy, it doesn't work,". Seems quite reasonable to me. I don't neccessarily think everything she has done is great, but I get why she would become the person she did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crudence View Post
    Jaina was the one person in the alliance that tried to advocate peace.
    Then why didn't she tell the alliance to fuck off? She allowed them to use her city to invade horde lands and slaughter their people. She let the alliance use Theramore as their main invasion point. Hellscream just did the most tactical sound thing and cut alliance off at it's invasion point.

    It more like if the US used the Port of Busan in south korea to spear point an invasion into north korea or china. Then NK or China blew up the Port of Busan. It is a perfectly sound defence.

    Horde didn't aggressively attack theramore. They defended themselves.
    Aye mate

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