Active shooter situation at Florida high school, at least 20 injured so far

[Mifuyne]

The cost of still being able to play the cowboy fetish game.

[Deletedaccount1]

What type of gun/guns was he using?

[Ghostpanther]

If the constitution no longer serves the people, it should be changed.

It can be and it is serving the people in accordance to how we set up the Constitution to begin with.

[Draco-Onis]

See insurgent groups in the middle east. Or the viet cong during the Vietnam war.

You folks act like any type of in-country fighting would be a bunch of dudes with shotguns in an open field against the US army and airforce.

Middle east insurgent groups are well armed against a divided and often untrained army, the viet cong knew they would never win the war the plan was to make the American public turn against the war through attrition. You need to pick up a history book sometime both of these scenarios result in countless innocent people dead and generations of misery.

[Mormolyce]

I guess some people just want to watch the world burn.

They love their country so they want it burning in a ditch. Makes sense to them somehow.

[Draco-Onis]

They love their country so they want it burning in a ditch. Makes sense to them somehow.

We love the armed forces so much we want to stack tons of guns to kill them.

[Mormolyce]

There are a few mass shootings dating back to before they got gun control..they dropped dramatically after that.

Yes, none were school shootings though.

[Ghostpanther]

Which is besides the point. Laws can change and people live where they've always lived.

No the point is very valid. The Constitution is what enables us here to exercise the laws we do have based on it. I do not expect Canadians to live according to the US Constitution or vice versa. But it is much easier to get a smaller group of people to agree than it is a much larger group on anything. Without forcing them to. The how their initial laws where set up by their founders, also can make a difference.

[Freighter]

There's a simple fix: Make guns stored at a police station or some other place where there are checks when you are going to get your gun and don't give them to just about anyone.

[Theodarzna]

Any word on a motive yet?

[Mormolyce]

Looked at a few of those, and they include a janitor cleaning his gun when it unintentionally went off, a guy who shot at a wall and damaged a security camera at 4 AM, a guy who discharged his firearm into the air at a concert, and my favorite:

"A 10-year-old student attempted to throw a chair at his teacher during class, and was then forcibly removed from the classroom by an armed police officer. While being escorted out, the student hit the police officer in his belt, discharging the officer's handgun, firing into the floor."

Everytown sure is playing fast and loose with the loaded term "School shooting".

Unfortunately I couldn't find one specifically looking at mass shootings in schools. However:

Between 2013-15 Everytown identified 160 school shootings across 38 states. Nearly 53 percent of the identified shootings took place at K-12 schools, and 47 percent took place on college or university campuses.

In 95 incidents — over half — the perpetrator(s) intentionally injured or killed at least one other person with a gun. In eight of those incidents, the shooter then shot and killed him or herself; in 20 separate incidents, the shooter attempted or completed suicide without first attacking someone else. Twelve shootings were purely unintentional in nature, and in 33 other incidents, a gun was discharged but no one was injured.

https://everytownresearch.org/report...ool-shootings/

So you can roughly divide that graph by two to get school shootings in which at least one victim died. Excluding accidental deaths and suicide.

[cuafpr]

what i want to get to the bottom of is, what changed... when my folks grew up guns were easier to get than now, students went to school with rifles hanging in their trucks for hunting b4 or after school.. what part of society shifted to this level of violence and why, and can that be changed. Guns are the tool of choice now, but without a true answer to why / what changed another tool will be used, maybe with less death or more if it was home made bombs/grenades/IED's which are easily made with every day items.

[kail]

Except for the fact that guns are not going to defend anyone from gov't.

You are fish in a barrel if the gov't and military is gunning for you. Your personal guns won't make a difference.

Hey, it's mean to crush other's LARPing fantasies.

[Deletedaccount1]

This article has a great graphic on the amount of deaths from different types of gun violence.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-gun-violence/

[Ghostpanther]

Dude, if you're THAT paranoid about a home invasion occuring just get a home security system installed.

Dude. I live 30 mins. min from any police arriving here in time to save me. The alarm goes off..I am suppose to sit back and wait for them to break in and then shoot my family or myself? I hope and pray I never have to defend myself with deadly force. But I am ready and willing to do so if the need is present. I have deadbolts, securitty lights and two dogs. So a ample warning system is in place and the tools to ward off a attack also.

[Mormolyce]

We love the armed forces so much we want to stack tons of guns to kill them.

We also support our troops by sending them to die in pointless wars that accomplish nothing.

And if you criticise us for that, you must hate the troops.

[kail]

what i want to get to the bottom of is, what changed... when my folks grew up guns were easier to get than now, students went to school with rifles hanging in their trucks for hunting b4 or after school.. what part of society shifted to this level of violence and why, and can that be changed. Guns are the tool of choice now, but without a true answer to why / what changed another tool will be used, maybe with less death or more if it was home made bombs/grenades/IED's which are easily made with every day items.

People are mentally capable of doing some terrible things. That has always been the case and will never change. Getting to the root "why" comes down to psychology.

[Mormolyce]

This article has a great graphic on the amount of deaths from different types of gun violence.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-gun-violence/

Mass shootings are rare but kill large numbers of people. They are a meaningfully distinct subset of gun violence, which is a larger phenomenon.

It's important to bear in mind which you're discussing.

[Ghostpanther]

It can be interpreted to whatever we want. The wording of the amendment can mean 5 different things that back either side of the gun control debate.

OT: Looks like bullying and his case of being ostracized was the driving point that led the perp to be expelled and later come in and shoot up the school. Simply tragic.

But the most important interpretation is what comes from the Supreme Court. Which is why gays have the right for their marriage to be recognized as any other marriage.

[Gorgodeus]

See insurgent groups in the middle east. Or the viet cong during the Vietnam war.

You folks act like any type of in-country fighting would be a bunch of dudes with shotguns in an open field against the US army and airforce.

See the fact that it was military vs military in your scenarios, but nice try.