Active shooter situation at Florida high school, at least 20 injured so far

[Dextroden]

Nazism is an ideology based on genocide. Is Christianity an ideology based on genocide?

Bro. Christianity, and, by extension, the Abrahamic religions, were about dominance and wiping out anyone that says "piss on your god".

[Dextroden]

Yeah, aside from that whole dead girl thing.

So, you like Minority Report?

Or is it the dictator approach of "Fuck your opinion. Straight to jail"?

[zorkuus]

There's nobody outside of fanatics who believe it doesn't make them whatever. It only makes them different degrees of believers, it doesn't make them not christian. 100% ideological purity has never been the criteria to be considered part of a group on ideological basis.

I didn't say they are not christian/communist. I am only pointing out the stupidity behind the idea that communism is 100% inherently evil.

[Slant]

Naw he doesn't own guns or know how to fight, I'll be fine.

Like there's much to know about guns... lol

[Shea03858]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...0&id=721249559

[Slant]

That's because you're closed minded and refuse to listen too or understand any counter arguments.

Okay, you have tickled my curiosity... what would you do to prevent stuff like this?

[Slant]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...0&id=721249559

Facebook is hardly a legit source. Do you have a better link?

[Dextroden]

Like there's much to know about guns... lol

That's the kind of thinking that leads to idiots shooting themself in a strip club or shooting a friend while dicking around.

[Slant]

I never said there was.

You implied that he doesn't know anything about guns... therefore you'll be fine? Not sure what the context was, but knowing guns isn't exactly mandatory to hurt people with them. If all else fails, throw it at 'em! It's still a hefty chunk of metal!

[Travis B]

So, you like Minority Report?

Or is it the dictator approach of "Fuck your opinion. Straight to jail"?

Or we can just keep a closer eye on people who have made it known their goal is to kill people. Every week I hear about some dumbass would-be terrorist (of both the white supremacist and radical Islam variety) who gets caught before they can carry out a mass murder. Incidentally, the asshole this thread is about should have easily been caught before he carried this attack out, as he practically advertised all over social media he was going to do something like this.

[Dextroden]

It's crazy how much your posts sound like the Anti-Muslim posters I've seen.

This is evidence in my theory that Elba is THE most elaborate troll.

[Elba]

Sounds more like you think you can't win against their ideas if you think imprisoning them just for harboring such beliefs is appropriate. Why do you have so little faith in your beliefs and think nazi ideology to be stronger and more appealing?

Their ideology is not logical. It is based on racism and pure hatred. Debating Nazis does not work because there is nothing to debate. It didn't work in the 1930s and it doesn't now. The only thing that stopped the Nazis in Germany was massive amounts of violence by the allies.

Do you want a Jew or a Black person or a Gay person to go on stage with Nazis and debate on whether or not Jews or black people or gay people have a right to exist? All that does is legitimize Jews or black people or gay people not having a right to exist as a legitimate position.

[Slant]

That's the kind of thinking that leads to idiots shooting themself in a strip club or shooting a friend while dicking around.

I agree. That's why I don't own guns!

Having said that, I've been in the military, so I know guns. And I know you need to know jack shit to hurt people with them. It's really... point and pull the trigger. The only easier method to hurt people is being a mafia boss and telling your underlings to "...take care of it..."

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I said he doesn't own guns. You even quoted me saying exactly that.

Oh, I misread that as he doesn't "know" guns. It's late, I should be forgiven for that.

[zorkuus]

So, you like Minority Report?

Do you like keeping an eye out for potential terrorists?

[Travis B]

They aren't the ones who derailed the thread, Elba is.

It takes two to tango. Player Twelve is the right-wing equivalent of Elba.

[Elba]

It's crazy how much your posts sound like the Anti-Muslim posters I've seen.

Nazism is an ideology based on genocide. Islam is not.

Dextroden already equated Nazis to Jews. You are now equating Nazis to Muslims.

Being a Muslim is a legitimate ideology to have. Being a Nazi is not.

[Dextroden]

Or we can just keep a closer eye on people who have made it known their goal is to kill people. Every week I hear about some dumbass would-be terrorist (of both the white supremacist and radical Islam variety) who gets caught before they can carry out a mass murder. Incidentally, the asshole this thread is about should have easily been caught before he carried this attack out, as he practically advertised all over social media he was going to do something like this.

Have they proven it was planned yet? I have zero qualms with surveillance. But if they didn't have proof they planned a hit and run, you could only arrest him for being a Nazi.

Which isn't a thing for a reason.

[Shea03858]

Facebook is hardly a legit source. Do you have a better link?

He had a good point, so I posted it for others. The internet in general could be a poor source.

I live near Boston and it is nearly impossible to get a concealed weapons permit, yet in Boston I see people getting shot monthly on the tv. Boston is suppose to have strict laws like Chicago, yet murders happen daily in Chicago. Why is that?

[Player Twelve]

Their ideology is not logical. It is based on racism and pure hatred. Debating Nazis does not work because there is nothing to debate. It didn't work in the 1930s and it doesn't now. The only thing that stopped the Nazis in Germany was massive amounts of violence by the allies.

Do you want a Jew or a Black person or a Gay person to go on stage with Nazis and debate on whether or not Jews or black people or gay people have a right to exist? All that does is legitimize Jews or black people or gay people not having a right to exist as a legitimate position.

What does the ideology not being logical have to do with what I said? If you believe you can't convince people to stay with your ideology or other democratic ideologies because nazi ideology is stronger and more appealing then you've already lost. I, for one, put much more faith in mine and other democratic ideologies to be stronger and be more appealing than nazi ideology, not like that is particularly hard.

[Slant]

Nazism is an ideology based on genocide. Islam is not.

Dextroden already equated Nazis to Jews. You are now equating Nazis to Muslims.

Being a Muslim is a legitimate ideology to have. Being a Nazi is not.

Let's be precise. Nazism is an ideology, Jewism and Islam are religions. Oh also, they're forbidden topics.