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    Enough with the 2 handed Holy Paladin.

    [Posting this here too]
    So this farce has gone on for far too long (if you include the mace from Tyrant Vel'Haari from Mythic HFC, which was bis), Holy Paladins have been forced to use a 2 handed weapon for no other reason (other than the silly excuse that whats-his-name the Lightbringer used one once upon a time), for 3 years almost.
    Can we at least have a choice ? I get it that some people like that style, but honestly at this point the 1 handed and shield Holy Paladin is way more iconic than the singular 2 handed that Uther used.
    My Paladin has defeated, Illidan, The Lich King, Yogg'Saron, Kel'Thuzad, Deathwing, Garrosh, Time travelling Orcs that made no sense and so on using a 1 handed and shield, i dont see why my class fantasy should be inspired from some human paladin that died at the hands of a traitor.

    At least give us a choice.

    /discuss
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    Yeah, I want my shield back too.

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    Ehh, won't there be both 1h/shield and 2h in BfA? I hope:S? It is just to loot a shield and a 1h and equip them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicon View Post
    Ehh, won't there be both 1h/shield and 2h in BfA? I hope:S? It is just to loot a shield and a 1h and equip them.
    I most certainly hope so, that's why i'm making this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordrevangr View Post
    [Posting this here too]
    So this farce has gone on for far too long (if you include the mace from Tyrant Vel'Haari from Mythic HFC, which was bis), Holy Paladins have been forced to use a 2 handed weapon for no other reason (other than the silly excuse that whats-his-name the Lightbringer used one once upon a time), for 3 years almost.
    Can we at least have a choice ? I get it that some people like that style, but honestly at this point the 1 handed and shield Holy Paladin is way more iconic than the singular 2 handed that Uther used.
    My Paladin has defeated, Illidan, The Lich King, Yogg'Saron, Kel'Thuzad, Deathwing, Garrosh, Time travelling Orcs that made no sense and so on using a 1 handed and shield, i dont see why my class fantasy should be inspired from some human paladin that died at the hands of a traitor.

    At least give us a choice.

    /discuss
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    Kinda been a thing since Vanilla. BfA you can choose again. All paladins wielded 2h maces with a libram until WoW came out in WC lore BTW.

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    I would imagine 2h would switch to Int if the pally switches spec.

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    Why is this an issue? Other casters regularly swap between 2hander and 1H+OH depending on their loot drops and current BiS. Paladins have been excempt only because of your inability to use Staves.

    So Give more 2Handed caster maces. Druids, Shamans and Paladins can all use those.

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    Nah, I like the transmog options better. You can’t transmog a shield to an offhand, so my holy paladin can’t hold a book. If I can’t hold a book, I’m going to hold a giant sword.
    Originally Posted by Zarhym (Blue Tracker)
    this thread is a waste of internet

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    Vanilla was the wild west of itemization, it doesn't count and other than the random 2 handed mace that rarely anyone used in BC, all items up to HFC that were BiS were 1 handed and shield. So there are far more 1 handed and shield combinations than 2 handed weapons used in the history of WoW ( i don't care about WC2 and WC3, so many other things changed since then)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanegasi View Post
    Nah, I like the transmog options better. You can’t transmog a shield to an offhand, so my holy paladin can’t hold a book. If I can’t hold a book, I’m going to hold a giant sword.
    That's great for you, but that's why i'm asking for options, you may like the 2 handed option, i don't. I miss my Shields.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Why is this an issue? Other casters regularly swap between 2hander and 1H+OH depending on their loot drops and current BiS. Paladins have been excempt only because of your inability to use Staves.

    So Give more 2Handed caster maces. Druids, Shamans and Paladins can all use those.
    I dont get your point. I'm talking about the Holy Paladin spec, not other classes/specs. I want my shields back as a Holy Paladin.
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    I miss healing with a nice pretty shield on my back too. Not a fan of the two-handed weapon thing... but I am worried we might be kind of stuck with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordrevangr View Post
    I dont get your point. I'm talking about the Holy Paladin spec, not other classes/specs. I want my shields back as a Holy Paladin.
    And in BfA you will. I'm just sayign that paladins are the only healers that have been stuck in 1H+OH combo wehn others have had choice.

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    Isn't it fairly obvious that there will be choice in a world without artifact weapons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fennekiin View Post
    Isn't it fairly obvious that there will be choice in a world without artifact weapons?
    When you're dealing with Blizzard you never know mate ;p

    But even if it is, it doesn't hurt to mention it and see what other players want as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordrevangr View Post
    [Posting this here too]
    So this farce has gone on for far too long (if you include the mace from Tyrant Vel'Haari from Mythic HFC, which was bis), Holy Paladins have been forced to use a 2 handed weapon for no other reason (other than the silly excuse that whats-his-name the Lightbringer used one once upon a time), for 3 years almost.
    Can we at least have a choice ? I get it that some people like that style, but honestly at this point the 1 handed and shield Holy Paladin is way more iconic than the singular 2 handed that Uther used.
    My Paladin has defeated, Illidan, The Lich King, Yogg'Saron, Kel'Thuzad, Deathwing, Garrosh, Time travelling Orcs that made no sense and so on using a 1 handed and shield, i dont see why my class fantasy should be inspired from some human paladin that died at the hands of a traitor.

    At least give us a choice.

    /discuss
    You were forced? Like, at gunpoint?

    Besides that, your thread is lacking any reasonable point, just because you think 1h+shield is most iconic, nobody else has to too. And when the pendulum fnally swings back, what will you say to people loudly complaining about having to wear a swordNboard setup?
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    Let there be the consensus. Just let Holy Paladins use both 1h+shield and 2h sets of weapon. Just add an armor to 2h weapon and thats it.
    I get some people are tired of using the bigass hammer as healers, but some people including me still love to use it.

    I personally would love to have an options to choose. Someday i want to look like a bastion of the healing, someday i want to look like the more vengeful healer. There is literally no problems to add the variation, from both lore and gameplay point of views.

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    whenever i see an NPC paladin with a 1h+shield, they never strike me as holy; they always seem like they were designed with a prot theme in mind

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    Giving a choice is the best way to do it, 2h holy does make as much sense as wearing a shield. My #1 request would be integrating weapon animations into the spell casting. Think holy paladins are due for some spell animation updates anyways.
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    They should just let you mog your artifact skins over the 1h+shield in BfA. That way if you don’t want to use 1h+shield you can at least use the sexy artifact skins that are 2H.

    If they make both 2H and 1h+shield, one of them will be BiS which won’t work for everyone. Best way to do this is to just let artifacts transmog over any current weapon type you have so you can always mog them regardless of current weapon type.

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    Some human paladin aka probably the most important one who is also the founder of the knights of the silver hand. If there is one mistake with 2-h holy paladins is the absence of a libram with it. (not the artifact one which is only for visual purposes but an actual item)

    Edit: I wouldn't mind a shield as long as we can still use a 2-h weapon.
    Last edited by mmoc17fb779254; 2018-02-22 at 09:41 AM.

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    You have been forced to use them for 3 years?
    It was hardly viable to heal with a 2hander 3 years ago... (every patch there was a weapon you could do it with, but it was usually rare to see it)
    The 1st time i saw a 2h healer paladin prior to Legion was in fact in HFC... (Tyrant's mace)
    The only "recent" other weapon that fits the criteria and comes to mind being the rare random drop 2h mace from throne of thunder.

    If at all you were only forced for about 1,5 years... which is changing in september anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Andouin View Post
    Some human paladin aka probably the most important one who is also the founder of the knights of the silver hand. If there is one mistake with 2-h holy paladins is the absence of a libram with it. (not the artifact one which is only for visual purposes but an actual item)

    Edit: I wouldn't mind a shield as long as we can still use a 2-h weapon.
    Which absence? :P
    Ever since 2h healing is a thing (Legion) they have been carrying a librarm at the belt.

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