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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by zito View Post
    in a dev interview

    as in not the official announcement post with launch date. They are making it sound like classic rift when it's not just to scam people to make a quick milking on a dying MMO with a playerbase of 500 people

    seriously they are so fucking lucky trove was a success or they be done
    To be fair Trove isn't a bad game. I actually think it's a fun little game and a decent time killer.

    My only issues are that it has horrid FPS issues on PS4 sometimes and the cash shop is bloated. And they use that marketing gimmick of "10 million players" like FF14 or GW2 does. It's all fine and dandy saying 10 million people played your game but that most certainly isn't active player numbers.

    http://steamcharts.com/app/304050 5k on Steam.

    I some how doubt the other 9,995,000 "active" players are on PS4, XB1 and Non Steam combined.

    But yeah I agree. If Trion didn't have Trove their heads would be just above the water.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    they use that marketing gimmick of "10 million players"
    Not to be pedantic or go too far off-topic or anything but it's actually 15 million players and last time i checked you can't run X-Box or Playstation through Steam, but hey, i could be wrong, it hasn't been launched in Japan yet so the numbers might go higher.

    http://www.trionworlds.com/en/news/2...llion-players/

    https://venturebeat.com/2018/02/06/t...cks-destroyed/

    https://www.mmobomb.com/news/trove-p...yer-milestone/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trove...140000622.html

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by serendipity11 View Post
    Pristine isn't a horrible idea, but its not a replacement for classic servers. And the dev time would be stupid low to do pristine servers. I'm guessing it never happened because they predicted not enough people would be interested.
    I have to disagree personally. I'm not fond of a pristine server idea.

    This is essentially what this is. In fact it's not even pristine. It's just some warped abomination that even the playerbase doesn't want. Says a lot when older players aren't going to return. Which is good. Maybe Trion will actually try and do an older server rather than lie about why they can't get one working.

    The more people speaking out against this the better personally. It's not classic, it's not what was asked for, their "statistics" are more than likely just the hardcore shills/fans that they talk to at PAX and so on.

    As I said just wait for WoW classic. You know you will be getting what you asked for with that and a decent product to boot. Better to wait for a product going to be of decent quality than throw money on a rushed one that not even older players want to come back for. Patience is rewarded and all that basically.

    http://forums.riftgame.com/general-d...e-servers.html

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Rift/commen..._like_in_2011/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Rift/commen...prime_servers/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Rift/commen...ime_server_no/

    People literally not playing on it partly because of how they are handling it and no EU server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lythelia View Post
    Agreed, the current game experience is terrible. Why would I pay more money for the same experience just capped at level 50?
    Milking. Simple as that.

    Let's not pretend Trion aren't trying to. Especially with the 30$ "get ready for prime" pack.

    This is literally a case of buyer beware.
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    I really don't see why people like Eleccybubb insist on coming into the Rift section when he has stated multiple times he doesn't play it and in fact uninstalled the game from his computer some time ago. I swear some people just like to bitch about stuff.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I really don't see why people like Eleccybubb insist on coming into the Rift section when he has stated multiple times he doesn't play it and in fact uninstalled the game from his computer some time ago. I swear some people just like to bitch about stuff.
    Feel free to ignore me so you don't see my posts then. As I will do with you. Works like a treat.

    If you feel the violate any rules of the website then report them to a moderator.

    But my parting thought before I don't see what you post. Ever think people like me and others are critical because we want the game to improve?

    Or that we are specifically critical here because what we wanted is Classic Rift and what we are getting is excuses and not classic?

    But feel free to act as though it's just "some people like to bitch about stuff". You are in the minority on that one. Anyway good day.
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    "What type of optional purchases are available on the RIFT Prime server?
    RIFT Prime possesses a limited in-game credit shop that features cosmetic items (mounts, companion pets, dyes, warfront announcers, costumes, etc) as well as a small number of services (Name Change Scrolls, Guild Rally Banners, etc). There will be no lockboxes or equipment offered in the store."

    So basically "we are keeping the entire store except the worst P2W part of it" Yeah fuck off Trion.

    Servers only getting run for a Year then closing as well. Double FUCK OFF Trion.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    "What type of optional purchases are available on the RIFT Prime server?
    RIFT Prime possesses a limited in-game credit shop that features cosmetic items (mounts, companion pets, dyes, warfront announcers, costumes, etc) as well as a small number of services (Name Change Scrolls, Guild Rally Banners, etc). There will be no lockboxes or equipment offered in the store."

    So basically "we are keeping the entire store except the worst P2W part of it" Yeah fuck off Trion.
    Have you not seen the intro pack they are doing? It literally smells of cash grab.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...1#post48932166
    @Jtbrig7390 has the info right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    I really don't see why people like Eleccybubb insist on coming into the Rift section when he has stated multiple times he doesn't play it and in fact uninstalled the game from his computer some time ago. I swear some people just like to bitch about stuff.
    Probably the same reason thousands come to a WoW Fansite to bitch about WoW?

  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Probably the same reason thousands come to a WoW Fansite to bitch about WoW?
    I will happily admit my critique is a bit over the top sometimes. But well if you don't at least try to have some punch in your critique then what is the point of being critical imo?

    I don't sugar coat or pussyfoot. If I'm critical then I'll be all out. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Probably the same reason thousands come to a WoW Fansite to bitch about WoW?
    The bulk of THOSE players actually play the game or at least have it installed. Neither applies to him. All he does is come in the Rift section and bitch about anything that is brought up. He calls it constructive criticism and all kinds of BS but its just bitching and nothing more.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by VyersReaver View Post
    It's Rift, who cares.
    Second post literally ended thread. Why tf there are 4 pages?
    My nickname is "LDEV", not "idev". (both font clarification and ez bait)

    yall im smh @ ur simplified english

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by ldev View Post
    Second post literally ended thread. Why tf there are 4 pages?
    Because some people are actually discussing the aspect of the server to be fair.

    This whole sub forum is kept alive by 1 person reposting news. Says a lot about the state of the sub forum right there.
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  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    That was my thought, too. So this is the "Classic" Version of a game that started ripping off / copying as much as it could from another "Classic" game?

    But oh well, I guess now people can say Blizzard is dragging the feet because Rift does it quicker.
    I'd rather them drag their feet and deliver a product that is polished/people want.

    Nobody wanted this abomination. Not even older players. And yes forgive me for sounding like I'm trying to speak for people here but the general consensus I got from reading around was that people wanted Classic. Not current client downgraded using modern soul trees and an already buggy client.

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    It's me, or this Slipmat is completely avoiding all the serious critics that 99% of other posters brings on the table?

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Shot89 View Post
    It's me, or this Slipmat is completely avoiding all the serious critics that 99% of other posters brings on the table?
    Yep.

    Go look at half the threads here. Any critique is apparently bashing these days.

    The "community ambassador" thing at Trion is just a glorified "gold star" badge in my opinion.

    That's not a criticism of him personally just how poorly the program is handled in general. But it's never going to get revamped sadly.

    I've seen CM/MVP programs with actual moderation and hell in other games I know MVP posters who are critical. And actually relay issues to the CMS who ofc then pass it on to the devs of said games.
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  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Did Rift start out as a sub game? in which case introducing this primer pack with a sub for a month is hilarious...because you get the game pre-f2p....and that was with a sub?
    Yes it was initially a sub game. And very worth the monthly fee imo.

    The prime server actually requires the patron sub.

    Ironic isn't it. The only thing classic about it is that it requires the sub.
    Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2018-02-23 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaymer77 View Post
    The bulk of THOSE players actually play the game or at least have it installed. Neither applies to him. All he does is come in the Rift section and bitch about anything that is brought up. He calls it constructive criticism and all kinds of BS but its just bitching and nothing more.
    Really? most of them seem to constantly bring up how "Oh i haven't played since MoP when WoW died blah blah blah"

    This is a re-release of an apparent Old version of the game people DID play. Meaning they can critique it without needing to have played the game currently.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Really? most of them seem to constantly bring up how "Oh i haven't played since MoP when WoW died blah blah blah"

    This is a re-release of an apparent Old version of the game people DID play. Meaning they can critique it without needing to have played the game currently.
    Yep. And as someone who did it's already a no for me because I can't play the old soul trees. Plus no EU server is a dealbreaker.

    There was this insane Cleric build that did a shit load of dps and healing but I can't for the life of me remember it's name. Would have given that a try but sadly I can't. I was a Chloromancer back then because the ebb and flow of the class was brilliant.

    God now I want to know what name that Cleric build is so I can find it.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Shot89 View Post
    It's me, or this Slipmat is completely avoiding all the serious critics that 99% of other posters brings on the table?
    The guy is like 99% a trion employee. Only posts in rift sub, account created during head start, only started posting after the first expansion launched.

    Got a email about this, was semi interested. Knowing its not full classic kind of sucks, but was on the fence of still wanting to check it out. But knowing slipmat is still in this sub posting about rift and not interacting with anything else on this site threw me off 100%.

    The guy never actually talks about the gameplay of rift. He is only posting updates from the main forums, or different promotions and defending what ever decision Trion does with rift. Even in threads where people ask "thinking of returning" he doesn't interact with the OPs about how he feels, he only defends the server population against other posters.

    Oh actually I was wrong that he only posts in the rift sub reddit. He was defending trove/archage in a archage thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Yep. And as someone who did it's already a no for me because I can't play the old soul trees. Plus no EU server is a dealbreaker.

    There was this insane Cleric build that did a shit load of dps and healing but I can't for the life of me remember it's name. Would have given that a try but sadly I can't. I was a Chloromancer back then because the ebb and flow of the class was brilliant.

    God now I want to know what name that Cleric build is so I can find it.
    Was it the Duracell Build? I used to play Shaman/Druid/Inq and absolutely crush people.

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