Originally Posted by
Frogguh
Yes, both individuals and nations have a right to defend themselves. But look at your own examples.
20 people killed at a school. Assuming you are talking about the recent Florida shooting, there was a failure in the process somewhere. That guy should not have had access to legal guns. The vast majority of Americans would not have supported him having firearms because of his known instability. Other than fixing whatever went wrong in the background check process, the only ways that could have been prevented legislatively would be A) removing all guns (won't ever happen) or B) having armed security in the school. Every government body in the world is probably a gun-free zone, but you can tell how much faith our benevolent overlords have in gun-free zones by the armed security they possess. The government knows what works to prevent armed attackers - armed defenders. Put them in our schools.
The Las Vegas shooter was completely under the radar, last I heard. Had no prior issues, no reason to suspect he would do what he did. Other than magically disarming the entire population, which won't happen, what law should be changed? Trump just issued an executive order on bump stocks, what else could be done legislatively? And had the guy been making threatening remarks, no one would have supported his possession of guns.
North Korea says it wants to acquire nuclear weapons and bomb the United States. We thus disapprove of them possessing nuclear weapons.
Do you not see the extremely obvious difference? Even at the individual level, people who run around threatening that if they have a gun they will use it to kill their neighbor do not have the support of anyone else to possess guns. The reason we don't care that, say, France has nuclear weapons is because we have no reason to believe that they will suddenly nuke New York. North Korea is constantly threatening to wipe the United States off the map. Why should we be any more comfortable with them possessing nuclear weapons than we would a guy on top of a building with a rifle shouting that he's going to kill everyone?