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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrages View Post
    I mean, there is actual research to indicate that porn is actually harmful to some individuals, but I don't know if I'd call it a public health risk.
    You can use any word instead of "porn" in your sentence and it remains true, like: smoking, alcohol, drugs, trash/fast food etc.

    If someone has no self-discipline and/or genetically has the tendency to become addict of such substances, doesn't mean that everyone is addicted and unhealthy. Biased article indeed.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by XMD View Post
    This sounds pathetic. Pr0n is a health risc? Sure...
    There has been actualy real studies over the last 50 years linking porn addiction to difficulty developing sexual relationships and even in another study I believe difficulty "keeping it up"

    I remember one out of Asia that linked the "generation of Virgins" or w/e they were calling it the fact that there are like 10x more 30 year old unmarried virgins in the country that 20 years ago. and that there were fears for the future population of the country. with Porn being a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moshots View Post
    There has been actualy real studies over the last 50 years linking porn addiction to difficulty developing sexual relationships and even in another study I believe difficulty "keeping it up"
    I think I know both of those studies. They're a bit misconstrued because they essentially don't conclude that pornography itself is the issue, but more so an underlying problem which then surfaces in pornography over-consumption.

    Both actually have counterparts in general masturbation in the time before pornography was readily available.

    Now there is research that indicates that there are certain issues that can steam from early adopters of pornography (11-13), and who then watches on a semi daily, but we might want to be careful, because video games are linked to the same general issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by krigsmaskin View Post
    Only THREE? What are you? Switzerland?

    Jokes aside, impressive

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    Do you mean the porn industry, or ppl who watch porn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by krigsmaskin View Post
    Do you mean the porn industry, or ppl who watch porn?
    I don't see how you could possibly not understand what I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    You have the research handy?
    No, OP was jumping to conclusions, I was asking him if he had seen the research, or the arguments himself before he dismissed it. Had he even thought about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    What is the research? I keep hearing about the research but people refuse to bring forth the research. Therefore the research must not exist. Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
    I find that hard to believe, surely your guys won't do things like that without some powerful indications of the ill effects of it.

    I've noticed it has been a powerful source of lot of problems for relationships, intimacy and a source of harmful addiction seriously affecting people I know. This is just my experience and some of those affected by it, I'm sure your lawmakers and rulers are far better informed than I am, you should ask them.
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    I had trouble forming relationships with the opposite sex long before I had access to cable internet and porn.

    People on the internet would have you believe that guys who masturbate a lot, to the point where it's a health issue, don't have the option of having sex with a woman anyway. So how exactly is it a PUBLIC health issue? Who's issue is it?
    Is it the male's issue because he masturbates too much, even though he basically never interacts with women or is it the woman's issue too because um, I dunno, less men are coming at her??? Doesn't even make any sense really.
    They'll probably try to link porn with all the sexual harassment cropping up lately.

    If you have trouble forming relationships, I think the current climate is putting nails in the coffin. So much distrust. If you slip up you're liable to be branded a womanizing porn addict and if you can't get an erection it's obviously your own fault and that means you're damaged from porn! I've never seen a more polarizing catch 22.
    So don't watch porn, don't hit on women, don't do anything because it's damaging your brain and hurting society, no matter how lonely or horny you get!!! Just hold it in!!! Give me a break... Victorian Era 2.0 here we come. What other solution is there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima22689 View Post
    There is a neurological correlation between addiction and portable though. When you orgasm you're getting a dopamine release. Before the internet, porn was much harder to access.

    Think about it, for thousands of years of you wanted sex, the average person would ha even to work hard for it. You'd have to court a woman (or do things we would call uncivilized) to see a pair of breasts. Now you can just go to porn hub and get your jollies off in a few minutes. This has an effect on the human brain when you can get that dopamine release constantly. Your brain becomes blunted to it, and it affects how people behave in relation to the opposite sex. Men can become anti-social and have psychological erectile disfunction. They will have a harder time interacting with women because their brains are desensitized from all the ultra sex stimulation. There are similar effects on women as well.

    Porn is a not inherently bad or something, but too much of it will screw people up. It's addictive and can hamper lives. The whole nofap folks aren't a bunch of puritans. Florida is doing this for stupid reasons, but there is merit in more research on the effects of porn on the human brain.
    Citation needed.

    Ideas like these are the reason I actually think this measure, as dumb as it is might actually be a good thing in the long run. Funding research (from universities and not some christian college) into the effects of porn might actually help dispell these weird theories of sexuality, like the research into video games helped to show that they aren't making people violent.

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    It exists, luckily I'm at the university right now, so I have access to most respectable journals:

    The effects of pornography, whether violent or non-violent, on sexual aggression have been debated for decades. The current review examines evidence about the influence of pornography on sexual aggression in correlational and experimental studies and in real world violent crime data. Evidence for a causal relationship between exposure to pornography and sexual aggression is slim and may, at certain times, have been exaggerated by politicians, pressure groups and some social scientists. Some of the debate has focused on violent pornography, but evidence of any negative effects is inconsistent, and violent pornography is comparatively rare in the real world. Victimization rates for rape in the United States demonstrate an inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates. Data from other nations have suggested similar relationships. Although these data cannot be used to determine that pornography has a cathartic effect on rape behavior, combined with the weak evidence in support of negative causal hypotheses from the scientific literature, it is concluded that it is time to discard the hypothesis that pornography contributes to increased sexual assault behavior.
    From a review published here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moshots View Post
    There has been actualy real studies over the last 50 years linking porn addiction to difficulty developing sexual relationships and even in another study I believe difficulty "keeping it up"

    I remember one out of Asia that linked the "generation of Virgins" or w/e they were calling it the fact that there are like 10x more 30 year old unmarried virgins in the country that 20 years ago. and that there were fears for the future population of the country. with Porn being a factor.
    Probably also a myth. See citation.

    The addiction model is rarely used to describe high-frequency use of visual sexual stimuli (VSS) in research, yet common in media and clinical practice. The theory and research behind ‘pornography addiction’ is hindered by poor experimental designs, limited methodological rigor, and lack of model specification. The history and limitations of addiction models are reviewed, including how VSS fails to meet standards of addiction. These include how VSS use can reduce health-risk behaviors. Proposed negative effects, including erectile problems, difficulty regulating sexual feelings, and neuroadaptations are discussed as non-pathological evidence of learning. Individuals reporting ‘addictive’ use of VSS could be better conceptualized by considering issues such as gender, sexual orientation, libido, desire for sensation, with internal and external conflicts influenced by religiosity and desire discrepancy. Since a large, lucrative industry has promised treatments for pornography addiction despite this poor evidence, scientific psychologists are called to declare the emperor (treatment industry) has no clothes (supporting evidence). When faced with such complaints, clinicians are encouraged to address behaviors without conjuring addiction labels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmAddict View Post
    I don't see how you could possibly not understand what I said.

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    No, OP was jumping to conclusions, I was asking him if he had seen the research, or the arguments himself before he dismissed it. Had he even thought about it?

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    I find that hard to believe, surely your guys won't do things like that without some powerful indications of the ill effects of it.

    I've noticed it has been a powerful source of lot of problems for relationships, intimacy and a source of harmful addiction seriously affecting people I know. This is just my experience and some of those affected by it, I'm sure your lawmakers and rulers are far better informed than I am, you should ask them.
    Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence you dunce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krigsmaskin View Post
    They might ge the wrong impression of what sex really is.
    I don´t think porn is representativ of that
    The solution to that is education.

    Fortunately, you can also get that at Pornhub, from their Sexual Wellness Centre (page is SFW, links may not be), operated by Dr. Laurie Betito.

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    Gun Porn is gross.
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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Gun Porn is gross.
    Not going to lie, that "mass shooting" bit was pretty epic.

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    THERE TRYiNG TO RGLATE ME GUNS!! Porn!! porn is bad!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2018/0...alth-risk.html



    Hmm... where was this research conducted? And by whom? The world may never know.. probably because it was a biased source..



    So I am guessing they are going to blame everything else including guns to try to push whatever agenda they are trying to push. If they can't do anything against guns they'll blame porn. Then they'll blame video games etc. It just seems a bit ridiculous to say that the pronz is a public health risk.

    The arguments they will be making are probably "Well. it makes it harder for you to form a real relationship with someone." Or. "It affects brain growth." "You can become addicted to it." Well.. these things can be said about anything. Including video games.
    Well they aren't wrong, to much of anything can be considered a health risk.

    I just don't get why or how people get hooked. Myself, like most boys exposed themselves to porn at a young age, I don't have a issue with it, it was just part of growing up. I just can't understand how it evolves to something more. Not just porn, but booze as well, I like my drink and I drink often but I can easily go without and have no idea how it develops into an addiction.
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    High powered weapons of war and the ability to horde them is fine, and actually pro American.


    Smoking marijuana and jerking off to people having sex is unamerican in politicians eyes.


    This is why your country is failing.

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    The research on porn's negative effects is extremely dubious and calling it a "public health risk" is a slippery slope to what is happening in the UK. Even if porn was bad for you, it doesn't justify a nanny state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    The research on porn's negative effects is extremely dubious and calling it a "public health risk" is a slippery slope to what is happening in the UK. Even if porn was bad for you, it doesn't justify a nanny state.
    That doesn't matter. You have to understand that things like this... when people talk about porn being a public health risk... it goes beyond money.

    This is religion proposing this idea. Remember that religion is the one thing that has the power to transcend money. The fact that your politicians are talking about this should be very worrying to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XangXu View Post
    That doesn't matter. You have to understand that things like this... when people talk about porn being a public health risk... it goes beyond money.

    This is religion proposing this idea. Remember that religion is the one thing that has the power to transcend money. The fact that your politicians are talking about this should be very worrying to people.
    It might partially be religion but that wasn't the cause of porn being blocked in the UK or censored in Japan. Governments see just a few studies showing negative effects (which are contradicted by countless other studies) and conclude that it is unhealthy and should be banned. More evidence for this is the NoFap movement which has its members entirely convinced that masturbation has countless negative effects with almost no evidence to back up their claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moshots View Post
    There has been actualy real studies over the last 50 years linking porn addiction to difficulty developing sexual relationships and even in another study I believe difficulty "keeping it up"

    I remember one out of Asia that linked the "generation of Virgins" or w/e they were calling it the fact that there are like 10x more 30 year old unmarried virgins in the country that 20 years ago. and that there were fears for the future population of the country. with Porn being a factor.
    You know what also has a much more provable link to difficulty developing sexual relationships in florida?

    Getting shot in a school.



    Bad timing on Florida's part.
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    Words to live by.

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    Texas governors make a habit of bragging about California's businesses relocating to Texas. How come Florida's governor never brag about stealing the 4 billion dollar a year porn industry from California? You would think that would be quite an achievement.

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