Republicans threaten Delta via airline tax breaks over NRA pullout

[mvaliz]

...WHAT... THE... HELL!!!!

https://www.mmo-champion.com/newthre...ewthread&f=359

I'm sorry - I CANNOT start an "unbiased" first post on this!

The state's Republicans — including a major candidate for governor— are threatening to kill part of a bill that would eliminate a state tax on jet fuel. If it passes, the provision is expected to save the Atlanta-based airline tens of millions of dollars.

"We felt that it was wrong for them to single out one company," said Chuck Hufstetler, chairman of the state's Senate Finance Committee. Delta (DAL) on Saturday announced that it would end discounted rates for National Rifle Association members.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!

So... because Delta Airlines is ending NRA discounts, the state GOP is going to adjust the laws and taxes to PUNISH Delta Airlines!? o_O

ISN'T THIS EXACTLY THE KIND OF GOVERNMENT OVEREACH THE SO-CALLED "REPUBLICANS" WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AGAINST!?!

Where the HELL is your "Free Market" values now!?! The GOP fights like Hell to not punish cakemakers from discriminating against gays because it's a "Free market", but will punish an ENTIRE fucking airline via tax manipulation because they're discontinuing... fucking petty trivial flight DISCOUNTS for a select group of gun nutters!?!

Bought and fucking sold, the GOP is! Holy unbelievable shit! >_<

[MAGAmobile]

I guess the GOP wants Atlanta to not have an airport, which is one of the busiest in the world. They also don't want to have one of their largest companies there anymore.

[Wyrt]

"It's not corruption, it's free speech, hurr durr" - The Supreme Court.

"Party of small government" my ass.

[LaserSharkDFB]

Yeah, this is absolutely 'government picking winners and losers'. It's utterly fucking corrupt, and Chuckfucker there needs to be removed immediately.

This is your party, Republicans. Own up to it and fix the problem.

[Dacien]

I feel bad for these companies that are caught between a rock and a hard place. They have these groups shouting loudly at them to act the way they want or else, so they predictably back off and do what needs to be done to mollify the activists, and in doing so anger people on the other side.

It's a consequence of the tactic, targeting companies and their sponsors instead of fighting for policy change through the democratic process. And if the democratic process isn't working, maybe people just don't want the changes?

[LaserSharkDFB]

I feel bad for these companies that are caught between a rock and a hard place. They have these groups shouting loudly at them to act the way they want or else, so they predictably back off and do what needs to be done to mollify the activists, and in doing so anger people on the other side.

It's a consequence of the tactic, targeting companies and their sponsors instead of fighting for policy change through the democratic process. And if the democratic process isn't working, maybe people just don't want the changes?

None of this has anything to do with the topic at hand. This is the government punishing a company for a social choice. Don't try to change the subject, and instead respond to the actual point of the thread.

[Dacien]

None of this has anything to do with the topic at hand. This is the government punishing a company for a social choice. Don't try to change the subject, and instead respond to the actual point of the thread.

Well it was a huge tax break that was under negotiation, a huge $40 million jet fuel sales tax exemption for Delta, and the GOP lawmakers backed out of it. Nothing illegal or untoward about that, they could have backed out because they were in a bad mood.

[mvaliz]

I feel bad for these companies that are caught between a rock and a hard place. They have these groups shouting loudly at them to act the way they want or else, so they predictably back off and do what needs to be done to mollify the activists, and in doing so anger people on the other side.

What the fuck, dude!? What the HELL is this apologist crap you're writing!? The anger"other side"? That "other Side" of people protesting should be the NRA members and the NRA - not the FUCKING STATE GOP MANIPULATING TAXES!!!

It's a consequence of the tactic, targeting companies and their sponsors instead of fighting for policy change through the democratic process. And if the democratic process isn't working, maybe people just don't want the changes?

WHAT THEY"RE DOING IS NOT!

What "Republican" values are suposed to do is have the NRA members protest back and have NRA members boycott Delta. The GOP should not, in any FUCKING way, be deliberately manipulating taxes as revenge/hostage for anything... let alone something as petty as NRA member discounts!

I'm going to risk an infraction for this, but what you wrote up there was proof positive you are not a Republican and have no interest in trying to debate anything other than scoring "wins" on your side, even if it means letting the government act like Mafia Thugs to please their paymasters.

Unfucking believable the gall you have. >_<

[Cthulhu 2020]

Well it was a huge tax break that was under negotiation, a huge $40 million jet fuel sales tax exemption for Delta, and the GOP lawmakers backed out of it. Nothing illegal or untoward about that, they could have backed out because they were in a bad mood.

And they just happened to be in a bad mood because Delta ended their NRA discount. So they threw a giant tantrum, lol.

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"Guys this isn't a bad thing because it's totally legal."

El oh fucking El

I love the smell of corruption in the morning, with a side of "woke independent" apologism.

[Garnier Fructis]

Well it was a huge tax break that was under negotiation, a huge $40 million jet fuel sales tax exemption for Delta, and the GOP lawmakers backed out of it. Nothing illegal or untoward about that, they could have backed out because they were in a bad mood.

There's nothing untoward about backing out of a deal because of being in a bad mood?

[Dacien]

What the fuck, dude!? What the HELL is this apologist crap you're writing!? The anger"other side"? That "other Side" of people protesting should be the NRA members and the NRA - not the FUCKING STATE GOP MANIPULATING TAXES!!!

But there is no "manipulating taxes". There was a provision that was giving a huge tax break to Delta with the support of GOP lawmakers, and these lawmakers pulled their support. This is how the system works.

WHAT THEY"RE DOING IS NOT!

What "Republican" values are suposed to do is have the NRA members protest back and have NRA members boycott Delta. The GOP should not, in any FUCKING way, be deliberately manipulating taxes as revenge/hostage for anything... let alone something as petty as NRA member discounts!

I'm going to risk an infraction for this, but what you wrote up there was proof positive you are not a Republican and have no interest in trying to debate anything other than scoring "wins" on your side, even if it means letting the government act like Mafia Thugs to please their paymasters.

Unfucking believable the gall you have. >_<

Well I don't think you'll be infracted, you're being very reserved and respectful considering how strongly you feel about this, but as I explained above, this is politics. This isn't retributory retraction of already-existing tax breaks, or penalizing new taxes on Delta for withdrawing NRA support, this was a provision that required GOP lawmaker support, and they pulled their support.

[mvaliz]

Well it was a huge tax break that was under negotiation, a huge $40 million jet fuel sales tax exemption for Delta, and the GOP lawmakers backed out of it. BECAUSE OF DELTA PULLING OUT OF THEIR NRA DEAL!!!

Fixed that for you. They said so themselves this has nothing to do with money issues, you deliberately misleading hypocrite! They said they are upset at them pulling out the NRA deal, and are literally holding taxes as a hostage FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NRA!!! >_< If that hadn't happened, the GOP would've let the taxes go through!

Nothing illegal or untoward about that, they could have backed out because they were in a bad mood.

Yes, this is (or at least should) be VERY fucking illegal! A government body is deliberately threatening a commercial company via Tax Manipulation to reinstate a COMMERCIAL DECISION that benefits a few NRA Members.

How in heaven's name can you defend that!? What the heck is wrong with you!? o_O

[Stormspellz]

I feel bad for these companies that are caught between a rock and a hard place. They have these groups shouting loudly at them to act the way they want or else, so they predictably back off and do what needs to be done to mollify the activists, and in doing so anger people on the other side.

It's a consequence of the tactic, targeting companies and their sponsors instead of fighting for policy change through the democratic process. And if the democratic process isn't working, maybe people just don't want the changes?

your mental gymnastics as usual is simply amazing to behold.

[Cthulhu 2020]

There's nothing untoward about backing out of a deal because of being in a bad mood?

You have to remember we're in woke independent land, where we support neither side (except the NRA and Trump).

[MAGAmobile]

Can we have a waiting period in government that prevents kneejerk reactions like this from occurring that negatively impacts a state's economy and well being? I know its not something feasible or possible, but one can dream... sort of.

Maybe not a waiting period, but something to its effect.

[mvaliz]

But there is no "manipulating taxes". There was a provision that was giving a huge tax break to Delta with the support of GOP lawmakers, and these lawmakers pulled their support. This is how the system works.

Unfucking believable... you unbelievable misleading hypocrite! They said they're doing this BECAUSE of Delta pulling out of the NRA and nothing else - why the hell are you so afraid to write that part!?

Tell us Why can't you write that!? Tell us why you're AFRAID to write that part!? Tell us, hypocrite!

[Dacien]

Unfucking believable... you unbelievable misleading hypocrite! They said they're doing this BECAUSE of Delta pulling out of the NRA and nothing else - why the hell are you so afraid to write that part!?

Tell us Why can't you write that!? Tell us why you're AFRAID to write that part!? Tell us, hypocrite!

They are pulling their support for the tax break provision for Delta because of Delta's decision to disassociate from the NRA.

And they are within their rights to do that, both legally and ethically. As I said before, they could have pulled their support for any reason.

[MAGAmobile]

So you think it's ethical for the government to single out a company that did nothing illegal and threaten them because they don't want to back an organization the government likes? You don't see this as overreach or corrupt?

[Cthulhu 2020]

both legally and ethically.

Nope, favoring companies because of political view is the massive stink of corruption.

When people (you) spend too long stand in shit though, they grow accustomed to the smell, so I can see why you'd take no ethical issue with the government blatantly favoring certain companies economicall for political views.

[mvaliz]

They are pulling their support for the tax break provision for Delta because of Delta's decision to disassociate from the NRA.

And they are within their rights to do that, both legally and ethically. As I said before, they could have pulled their support for any reason.

/jaw drops

...wow, unfucking believable. Totally unfucking believable that you think this is ETHCIALLY sound! o_O

/throws hands up

How are we supposed to talk to somebody who doesn't even have a moral conscious!?

EDIT: no, I will change that slightly - a selfish self-centered sense of morality where, if the reverse of this happened, you would be fighting tooth-and-nail against. But because it's your side using government powers to threaten to punish a commercial company for making a COMMERCIAL decision over a small group and small decision like "discounts" - you believe it's "Ethical".

Again, how the hell are we suposed to "talk" with a side that doesn't recognize blatant government abuse of power over commercial companies simply because it's "his side" doing it? >_<