What Weak Aura profile do you guys use?
What about your childish insults? Where do you take those? Not to play fury would be my first guess lol.
Fun is completely objective and those enjoying themselves are always preached to how wrong they are for playing a spec. Just like not liking something is also subjective but haters love to treat it like fact. But someone calling another player shit and foolish for enjoying something they don't well that isn't a shocker coming from the wow community or MMO Champion. The Trolls need to get exctied a rub their fat bellies with their tounges hanging out somehow.
The Last Starfighter
"Listen, Centauri. I'm not any of those guys, I'm a kid from a trailer park." - Alex Rogan
"If that's what you think, then that's all you'll ever be!" - Centauri
Success in this game revolves around having a strong community (be it 4 or 19 other people) and investing time to get the best possible gear and best possible skill.
All three require reliability in performance. For most us who don't have the time or will to play this game profesionally, we can be lucky if we have one class and spec for which we fulfill the criteria. Anyhing beyond that is usually luxury reserved for the most dedicated players.
Flexibility, an important aspect of enjoying this game, varies between specs, classes, players. Due to large variety of specs, self-healing tanks and pet classes, for example, will have greater soloing ability than others. Other classes, like mages, thrive in group content.
Most of us senior players know this from the start. There's no surprise beast mastery hunter will be a top solo content class, whatever the current iteration of it, just like there's no surprise warriors need healers to keep them up. It has been that way since first days of Alterac Valley 8-hour battles.
Superstition and dislike existed from very early days of Vanilla. I had a 14-year old's dream come true to tank Molten Core as a bear, beacuse no other guild would have him. He did a solid job of making the maximum out of a truly gimped class. By same logic, I allowed a shadow priest and a fully R14 geared ret paladin. Before that, we as a group lacked a tank so we rotated the hunter' pet and had our shaman go tank spec. We cleared all dungeons up to Blackrock Depths, where mobs started hitting too hard.
Did they top DPS meters? They did not. But they were having fun and were grateful for the opportunity. That is what gimped specs feel like. Being rejected on a game-wide level (at that time played by millions of people).
Fury in 2018 is nowhere near that level of struggle and humiliation.
You can argue that Blizzard spent more than a decade changing the game. It's true. And we changed with it. But to be fair, our skill at clicking buttons developed much faster than our social skills. A perfect Mythic+ spec is giving you social crutches. Fury does not have that luxury. So what? Be better at social skills.
The issue here is not whether you can top DPS charts (and I presume you can, actually), but whether you are fully accepted and appreciated by your community. No class or spec can buy that. That one is purely on the player.
If anyone feels forced to play the optimal class and spec for M22+ then it's a sad state of affairs that says more about the community than the game itself.
Last edited by Parhelion; 2018-03-13 at 12:27 PM.
You made some good points and I agree with most of it, but this last part I have to disagree with. There are some specs that legitimately do not have the tool sets to deal with some boss mechanics. Fury is going to have a bitch of a time surviving tyrannical Hyrja at 21+. My frost DK can't survive tyrannical Melandrus 20+ even with 14% avoidance and Prydaz unless the healer can afford to just focus spam me. I am sure there are plenty of others, and while it may be possible to survive, it is unlikely and experienced groups will probably chose not to take the risk.
I understand what you're saying. This one is on Blizzard. It's their content. Even if it scales into infinity (like Mythic+), there should be no unavoidable damage that can one-shot any class. An on-demand damage mitigation should be in the warriors' toolkit, perhaps some sort of Ignore Pain. That would fit class fantasy.
I'm thinking hard and I can't seem to find any other class or spec that doesn't have some sort of damage mitigation built in.
Last edited by Parhelion; 2018-03-15 at 11:26 AM.
DPS warrs in legion is the most I have hated their specs and I have played warr since vanilla (did skip WoD & MoP on warr).
I really enjoyed Inner Rage Fury, but dont like the current Bloodbath Fury.
On the topic of survivability, I watched a hpala stream yesterday of Lower Karazhan +22. Blood DK tank, two affli warlocks, a rogue. The hpala did 10 % of healing (on average).
On the other hand, after that, they did CoS +24, and it was trinary. Either instant death, instant 80-90% HP loss or no damage. I guess it's the "instant 90% hp loss" that's the issue for fury warriors.
Fury is so awefully boring in legion I can’t stand it. Don’t get me started on rampage. Such an annoying and long animation. And I never understood how more buttons makes it more fun to play. Yay I pressed another button next to my other button omfg this is so fun. Or not it’s an annoying hassle. The less buttons you have to press the more fun I have. I hate the current state when you have to press this first then that. Ffs just let me use whatever button available or best for the moment. Hell I played combat rogue in wotlk. And specifically played this because the ruptureless rotation was viable. This made it to. Spam sinister strike then snd and eviscerate. Man that was so simple and fun I miss it. Fury was fun and simple too.
I agree, but it's a lot less worse if you either run Carnage along with it and/or just equip Cenn+Valarjar, the Rage generation is high enough to keep the spec fun, and it's what I do when we run Heroic. What is a good deal less fun is the optimal execute build from 100-20, but as a silver lining it does allow us to go Super Saiyan from 20-0 which has its charm.