1. #24761
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Not sure if this is relevant, but wow.tools map tool lists a small map that's a slice of that lighthouse section of the eastern kingdoms as "VoidElf". I don't know if that's how it's listed in the game files, or not, but it looks like the site is using the game data.
    Yes, in the early patch 7.3.5 PTR, the area was initially linked to the playable void elf unlock questline. It was named Shadow of Azeroth, and approaching it caused the sky to turn violet akin to the Edge of Reality in Shadowmoon Burial Grounds.

  2. #24762
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Yeah! The Lordaeron Range Lighthouse is that place between the Plaguelands https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Que...ngdoms_terrain

    As these aren't actually "capital cities", and really, barely are they hubs, they could be anywhere where it would make more sense lorewise. Although I'd really like if they were at least more hub like with flight points and some services like any other town.

    There's just so many possibilities, and I think besides places I personally like, I'd like it to be a place with Highborne ruins.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Not sure if this is relevant, but wow.tools map tool lists a small map that's a slice of that lighthouse section of the eastern kingdoms as "VoidElf". I don't know if that's how it's listed in the game files, or not, but it looks like the site is using the game data.

    Currently, if you go there in game, there's a strange visual effect not seen there in past iterations of the game. I think that visual effect appeared in BfA, but maybe it was at the end of Legion? I am unsure:
    That indeed looks like the most ideal spot for new home for Void/High elves. I actually like that their new home would be quite close to their homeland, creating tension with blood elves. I guess it was not implemented due to Quel'thalas itself being not included to EK continent map, but Outland map instead.

    I also found a fan made concept of new high elf zone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEsgomaSW20&t=184s

    I actually like the idea of a city build on mountain plateau. Void elves with their racial ability to open void rifts make it easy to access for them, but difficult for other races. Telogrus Rift could work as a sacred place of pilgrimage for all ren'dorei and thalassians who want to delve into mysteries of the Void, but their new city on Azeroth would be more like place of everyday life.

  3. #24763
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Currently, if you go there in game, there's a strange visual effect not seen there in past iterations of the game. I think that visual effect appeared in BfA, but maybe it was at the end of Legion? I am unsure:
    It was probably meant to be the void elves base of operation, before they decided to make Telogrus

  4. #24764
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    It was probably meant to be the void elves base of operation, before they decided to make Telogrus
    If that's the case, I think it was the right call because Telogrus is awesome!

  5. #24765
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    If that's the case, I think it was the right call because Telogrus is awesome!
    Could have set the stage for the Quel'Thalas Warfront that was later deleted because Warfronts were terrible.

    I reckon, in place of that Warfront, was the Sin'dorei Heritage Armor questline.

  6. #24766
    It's amazing this thread is 1200 pages long, but gotta give it to High Elf fans: you guys are persistent.

    I'm happy the Blood Elf customization like ears and hairstyles are coming to Void Elves in 9.1.5!

  7. #24767
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostCodex View Post
    It's amazing this thread is 1200 pages long, but gotta give it to High Elf fans: you guys are persistent.

    I'm happy the Blood Elf customization like ears and hairstyles are coming to Void Elves in 9.1.5!
    Hair colours.

    Not the hair styles. Void Elves need their own hair styles, not more from the Blood Elves.

  8. #24768
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Hair colours.

    Not the hair styles. Void Elves need their own hair styles, not more from the Blood Elves.
    At this point all customization options should be shared between void and blood elves and night elves and nightborne.

  9. #24769
    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    At this point all customization options should be shared between void and blood elves and night elves and nightborne.
    So then you just play "Elf."

  10. #24770
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    So then you just play "Elf."
    Horde Magic Elf and Alliance Magic Elf and Horde Druid Elf and Alliance Druid Elf.

  11. #24771
    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    Horde Magic Elf and Alliance Magic Elf and Horde Druid Elf and Alliance Druid Elf.
    No - just "Elf."

    No difference between them, each one is just "elf."

  12. #24772
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    No - just "Elf."

    No difference between them, each one is just "elf."
    Sure, why not. I want the faction split gone anyway, that’s my end goal.

    I like races having unique cultures and differences, but Blizzard didn’t do that with the void elves. They didn’t even make them Alliance high elves. They’re literally blood elves who got kicked out of Silvermoon. Right now there are no cultural differences, they could have been Alliance high elves that studied the void like Alleria, but no. It’s just straight up blood elf exiles. Blood elf heritage is void elf heritage. Blood elf homelands are void elf homelands. At least high elves have a political split from the blood elves. Void elves got nada.

    PS. I wanted Alliance high elves since launch. Blood elves joining the Horde doesn’t really make sense, but that was 17 years ago. I’ve let it go and besides they’ve developed nicely in the Horde. But Blizzard decided to add a sizable high elf group, the Silver Covenant, to the Alliance. They were important in Wrath and MoP. If Blizzard decided to make all the Alliance high elves into void elves, I’d be frustrated, but for me it would have ended the push to get high elves. In the story the high elves could have been completely, utterly dead and they can now grow as void elves. But Blizzard didn’t do that and I am very excited to get high elf customization options. I am very happy with the skin and hair colors and the tentacle toggle. I’m not going to push for more, but I do recognize at this point there’s no reason to not give void elves all the blood elf options. We’ve got half of them already. Just give us the rest. Give the Horde the Alliance Elf options too for parity.
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  13. #24773
    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    Horde Magic Elf and Alliance Magic Elf and Horde Druid Elf and Alliance Druid Elf.
    But there is no such thing as Horde druid elf. Only Horde magic elf.

  14. #24774
    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    Sure, why not. I want the faction split gone anyway, that’s my end goal.

    I like races having unique cultures and differences, but Blizzard didn’t do that with the void elves. They didn’t even make them Alliance high elves. They’re literally blood elves who got kicked out of Silvermoon. Right now there are no cultural differences, they could have been Alliance high elves that studied the void like Alleria, but no. It’s just straight up blood elf exiles. Blood elf heritage is void elf heritage. Blood elf homelands are void elf homelands. At least high elves have a political split from the blood elves. Void elves got nada.
    Well that's not the Blood Elf fanbase or the Blood Elf races' problem.

    Maybe Void Elves just need to go and live in Duskwood or Eldre'Thalas (wink wink, @Vaedan), then they can build their own legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    PS. I wanted Alliance high elves since launch. Blood elves joining the Horde doesn’t really make sense, but that was 17 years ago. I’ve let it go and besides they’ve developed nicely in the Horde. But Blizzard decided to add a sizable high elf group, the Silver Covenant, to the Alliance. They were important in Wrath and MoP. If Blizzard decided to make all the Alliance high elves into void elves, I’d be frustrated, but for me it would have ended the push to get high elves. In the story the high elves could have been completely, utterly dead and they can now grow as void elves. But Blizzard didn’t do that and I am very excited to get high elf customization options. I am very happy with the skin and hair colors and the tentacle toggle. I’m not going to push for more, but I do recognize at this point there’s no reason to not give void elves all the blood elf options. We’ve got half of them already. Just give us the rest. Give the Horde the Alliance Elf options too for parity.
    Or all races have features that keep them distinct.

    If I play a green eyed elf, I am clearly playing a Blood Elf.
    If I'm a mana addict to the extreme, then I'm clearly playing a Nightborne.

  15. #24775
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    That indeed looks like the most ideal spot for new home for Void/High elves. I actually like that their new home would be quite close to their homeland, creating tension with blood elves. I guess it was not implemented due to Quel'thalas itself being not included to EK continent map, but Outland map instead.

    I also found a fan made concept of new high elf zone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEsgomaSW20&t=184s

    I actually like the idea of a city build on mountain plateau. Void elves with their racial ability to open void rifts make it easy to access for them, but difficult for other races. Telogrus Rift could work as a sacred place of pilgrimage for all ren'dorei and thalassians who want to delve into mysteries of the Void, but their new city on Azeroth would be more like place of everyday life.
    Yeah! That's one thing I think that has a lot of potential, the ability of the Void Elves to maintain supply lines on hard to reach places through their rifts. And I really do like the idea of the VE's settling on a place that oversees Quel'thalas, like a looming threat almost hehe, their goals just out of reach. It would also give the alliance a hold in the Northern Eastern Kingdoms, which would be great for that idea of keeping the other faction "in check"

    Either way, I would like to see Telogrus itself expanded as a research facility. That would still be the place to truly delve in the mysteries of the Void. Like I'd like that Void Elves and High Elves settle together in Azeroth, but Telogrus remains that place of void study where the elves that want to explore those mysteries go.

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    Blizzard you better release the ptr today or another blood elf will be killed tonight in retaliation.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  17. #24777
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Blizzard you better release the ptr today or another blood elf will be killed tonight in retaliation.
    Uhhh??? based?

  18. #24778
    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    Horde Magic Elf and Alliance Magic Elf and Horde Druid Elf and Alliance Druid Elf.
    Hey wait, isn't druid elf also a magic elf?

    I thought all elves were magic elves..that's their thing - MAGIC.

    How do you think the druid ones do the things they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Yes, in the early patch 7.3.5 PTR, the area was initially linked to the playable void elf unlock questline. It was named Shadow of Azeroth, and approaching it caused the sky to turn violet akin to the Edge of Reality in Shadowmoon Burial Grounds.
    You mean akin to Argus where you enter the void version to fight the Ehtereals.

  19. #24779
    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    Hey wait, isn't druid elf also a magic elf?

    I thought all elves were magic elves..that's their thing - MAGIC.

    How do you think the druid ones do the things they do?
    WoW has never been shy about the cultural and ideological distinctions of druidic and arcane magic, let's not pretend they are seen as the same thing.

    Which IS the interesting thing about elves. Yes, they all are adept to all forms of magic, but it's their group ideologies what lead what "magics" do they use. Do they have taboos against some types? Or do they see all the possibilities of every school? Pretty much a Night Elf to Blood Elf spectrum, with all other derivative elves somewhere in between.

    I do think both Blood Elves and Nightborne could learn druidism, but I do think it would be less spiritual and more scholarly than the NE version, more of the "Botanist" Archetype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Blizzard you better release the ptr today or another blood elf will be killed tonight in retaliation.
    Urgh, I really wanna know how the hair textures textures are going to work!!

  20. #24780
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    WoW has never been shy about the cultural and ideological distinctions of druidic and arcane magic, let's not pretend they are seen as the same thing.

    Which IS the interesting thing about elves. Yes, they all are adept to all forms of magic, but it's their group ideologies what lead what "magics" do they use. Do they have taboos against some types? Or do they see all the possibilities of every school? Pretty much a Night Elf to Blood Elf spectrum, with all other derivative elves somewhere in between.

    I do think both Blood Elves and Nightborne could learn druidism, but I do think it would be less spiritual and more scholarly than the NE version, more of the "Botanist" Archetype.

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    Urgh, I really wanna know how the hair textures textures are going to work!!
    Not even sure you'll see the non tentacle hairs in the first build considering how they talked about it.

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