Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[delus]

Sorry, but it seems you're the one that don't understand the difference:

You can "play" as an Alliance high elf in Shadowlands just as much as you could "play" as a demon hunter back in TBC by being a rogue and wielding Illidan's warglaives and wearing his blindfold.

You can roleplay as one, but you are not one.

So you are also saying that wildhammer Dwarves and sandfury trolls aren't coming to the game either?

[Ardenaso]

Meh...im annoyed because their story always involves a human as their lover influencing them in some way.
I want independence!
I WANT ANGER!
I WANT ELF RACISTS!

we need questlines where a Blood Elf guy tells you to kill some Human/Draenei for "stealing" his Blood Elf girlfriend

[elbleuet]

I would rather see them rejoin the blood elves.
With Sylvanas gone, there is no windrunner representation for the Horde.

The Horde doesnt need any.
But Vereesa could act as an Alliance representative in Silvermoon. That would be awesome.

[Broflake]

So you are also saying that wildhammer Dwarves and sandfury trolls aren't coming to the game either?

That is a case of false equivalency.
The difference between a wildhammer dwarf and sandfury troll is skin deep.
The difference between a void and a high elf literally has an entire questline dedicated to what makes them different.

high elves rely on the sunwell.
Void elves dont.
High elves have normal hair.
Void elves have tentacles.

Alleria is classified as a void elf despite her appearance, and not a high elf.
So, why is it that you want the looks of Alleria, the powers of Alleria, but not the racial classification?

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we need questlines where a Blood Elf guy tells you to kill some Human/Draenei for "stealing" his Blood Elf girlfriend

YES!
This would be hilarious

[The Silver Covenant]

Sorry, but it seems you're the one that don't understand the difference:

You can "play" as an Alliance high elf in Shadowlands just as much as you could "play" as a demon hunter back in TBC by being a rogue and wielding Illidan's warglaives and wearing his blindfold.

You can roleplay as one, but you are not one.

Same goes for Blood Elves with blue eyes. Still not a High Elf and we all have to roleplay as Quel’dorei. Nothing has changed except that the Alliance doesn’t have to suspend disbelief as much anymore.

[Broflake]

The Horde doesnt need any.
But Vereesa could act as an Alliance representative in Silvermoon. That would be awesome.

Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.

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Same goes for Blood Elves with blue eyes. Still not a High Elf and we all have to roleplay as Quel’dorei. Nothing has changed except that the Alliance doesn’t have to suspend disbelief as much anymore.

The description of blood elves calls them high elves. The devs state they are high elves.
I cannot understand this insistence on refusing what has been reiterated over the past 15 years on the blood elf title being a title.

[delus]

That is a case of false equivalency.
The difference between a wildhammer dwarf and sandfury troll is skin deep.
The difference between a void and a high elf literally has an entire questline dedicated to what makes them different.

high elves rely on the sunwell.
Void elves dont.
High elves have normal hair.
Void elves have tentacles.

Alleria is classified as a void elf despite her appearance, and not a high elf.
So, why is it that you want the looks of Alleria, the powers of Alleria, but not the racial classification?

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YES!
This would be hilarious

So you're saying that they are different because high elves can't learn to use void magic?

[Ardenaso]

Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.

Vereesa hates Rommath, not Lorthemar
Auric Sunchaser is still Alliance given that Auric's Angels exist

[Broflake]

So you're saying that they are different because high elves can't learn to use void magic?

No. Let me go into detail to help clarify.
What is the difference between a demon hunter and a warlock?
Demon hunters have a demon in them, and are infused with fel energy.
Warlock's aren't infused with it, and simply use it.
Its the difference between someone who holds a sword in hand and swing it at you, versus someone who is part sword and conjures them from their hands.

Void elves are the latter category. They ARE the void.
Shadow priests are the former. They USE the void but are not the void.

This is the same for Death knights versus necromancers.
One is MADE of death magic while the other uses it.


This is why Void elves are different from high elves/blood elves.
They don't need a sunwell which is a huge change from what high elves/blood elves are.
Void elves also have tentacle hair...which is certainly different from high/blood elves who dont.

It is why the insistence of the claim is silly.
If you really think that having a pale skin tone changes what you are, then what was it you really wanted in the first place?

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Vereesa hates Rommath, not Lorthemar
Auric Sunchaser is still Alliance given that Auric's Angels exist

Auric's sunchasers is a reference to Charlie's angels. Auric himself never formed such a group. Last we saw, he was at the Sunwell wanting the high elves an blood elves to re-unifiy.

[FlubberPuddy]

Meh...im annoyed because their story always involves a human as their lover influencing them in some way.
I want independence!
I WANT ANGER!
I WANT ELF RACISTS!

Sounds like you'd love the Blood Elves. They're all those things among more.

[delus]

No. Let me go into detail to help clarify.
What is the difference between a demon hunter and a warlock?
Demon hunters have a demon in them, and are infused with fel energy.
Warlock's aren't infused with it, and simply use it.
Its the difference between someone who holds a sword in hand and swing it at you, versus someone who is part sword and conjures them from their hands.

Void elves are the latter category. They ARE the void.
Shadow priests are the former. They USE the void but are not the void.

This is the same for Death knights versus necromancers.
One is MADE of death magic while the other uses it.

Maybe that's not true anymore.

[Broflake]

Sounds like you'd love the Blood Elves. They're all those things among more.

I have a blood elf, but I want to see the story illustrate this as well.

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Maybe that's not true anymore.

Always a possibility, Blizzard is using shadowlands as an opportunity to walk back on a lot of their lore and design philosophies.
Frostmourne originally was demon made, now it is from the Shadowlands.

I do hope they don't, because it just removes any other unique aspects void elves had left.
If people perceive WoW is a game where factions are in name only, then the only thing WoW will have is sunk costs to it.

[Pheraz]

That post about the future culture that finds this thread made me giggle.

Also: maybe people can finally understand the horde as the bad choice that it is now that those anime elves are available to both. Recently played a be dh for the two sides of every tale achievement for the cool wolf and myyyyyy god... War campaign is ultra lame,ogrimar is super annoying, the pyramid is super annoying, the whole faction is so bad I just think that people race changing to horde for reeeeasons is one of the biggest myth and fake tale of the internet. The players in random dungeons were ultra bad. Not a hundred of my dream elves of pure azsharian glory could convince me to play horde

[Varodoc]

I would rather see them rejoin the blood elves.
With Sylvanas gone, there is no windrunner representation for the Horde.

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The matters I am hoping to cope with go beyond the matter of pixels. Best keep your psychic roleplay to yourself.
But hey, if you need to pretend someone is salty over something to feel good, go for it. Seems a little sad though.


Maybe.
They did show purple for blood elves in the past datamine despite it being NPC flagged along with blue eyes

Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.

[elbleuet]

Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.

And Vereesa has made it quite clear she hates the Horde and especially the blood elf leadership. See the Thas'dorah questline.
You will never get any of the Windrunner sisters.

But for the sake of "parity", just give us the western, unused part of Silvermoon please.

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Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.

It would be damn exciting to witness a civil war in Quel'Thalas.

[Broflake]

Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.

Honest question...I remember in three sister the voics in Alleria's head said she had rights to the throne.
I don't get how that was the case.

[Thalassian Bob]

Fair enough on the others, but I mean post-WotLK especially on WoD and BFA when they were absent

Well, maybe some of the blood elf "high elves" we will see running around will be some of those Argent high elves who came home to help rebuild after the Northrend campaign, but the Silver Covenant is probably another story. Think about their actions in that time. After Northrend, Vereesa sneaked a cadre of rangers into Quel'Thalas (admittedly at Halduron's behest), breaching their exile, they then violently purged the Sunreavers from Dalaran, murdering resistant civilians, they subsequently worked against blood elven efforts on the Isle of Thunder campaign. It was only in Legion when the Silver Covenant started working indirectly with the blood elves through pledging allegiance to the hunters of the Unseen Path.

All of those actions are gonna lead to Lor'themar probably extending the ban on entry to Quel'Thalas for high elves who pledge themselves to Vereesa indefinitely.

Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.

Quel'Thalas has no king. Quel'Thalas needs no king.

[Broflake]

And Vereesa has made it quite clear she hates the Horde and especially the blood elf leadership. See the Thas'dorah questline.
You will never get any of the Windrunner sisters.

But for the sake of "parity", just give us the western, unused part of Silvermoon please.

Vereesa made it clear she sympathized with her people more.
Western silvermoon is rebuilt post TBC.
What makes you think the blood elves would tolerate void elves being in their home after practicing forbidden magic?
Or alliance high elf loyalists who abandoned their home? Seems a stretch.

It would be damn exciting to witness a civil war in Quel'Thalas.

You mean an invasion ~_^

[Starla]

I think we all win, everyone has what they want, you have your void elves with more customizations that are still void elves. and we have new eyes and hair color !! blue hair!!!
congrats to all !! The purple eyes for my mage are coming !!! blue will be for my hunter and blue hair !!!

How dare you be so reasonable!!

I think in the end we do need to concentrate on getting some of the things we wanted. It's true not everyone got exactly what they wanted but at least the begging for alliance high elves will finally stop.

[Broflake]

Well, maybe some of the blood elf "high elves" we will see running around will be some of those Argent high elves who came home to help rebuild after the Northrend campaign, but the Silver Covenant is probably another story. Think about their actions in that time. After Northrend, Vereesa sneaked a cadre of rangers into Quel'Thalas (admittedly at Halduron's behest), breaching their exile, they then violently purged the Sunreavers from Dalaran, murdering resistant civilians, they subsequently worked against blood elven efforts on the Isle of Thunder campaign. It was only in Legion when the Silver Covenant started working indirectly with the blood elves through pledging allegiance to the hunters of the Unseen Path.

All of those actions are gonna lead to Lor'themar probably extending the ban on entry to Quel'Thalas for high elves who pledge themselves to Vereesa indefinitely.



Quel'Thalas has no king. Quel'Thalas needs no king.

I can also see that, especially after the alleria incident. It is a shame she got screwed over.
Void elvesshould have been a horde thing.