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    Any Windows/Network pros out there?

    Need help with my hosts file, recently encountered problems where I cannot access my hotmail email and I have pin pointed the cause as to being blocked by my hosts file. I done a google search to see what a hosts file should look like (As I was wondering why mine contained so much, microsoft stuff especially) and I was kind of horrified.
    I use a legitimate copy of Windows 10 Professional so I dont understand why all these entries are there, I certainly did not add them manually.

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    I would honestly
    1. just copy everything and save it into a new text file.
    2. Delete everything in your host file that isn't on a line with # as the start of the line.
    3. Try hotmail

    Ive never seen a host file like that, but Ive never used 10.
    Not a networking genius, however, the only reason something would be adding IP connections through the 0.0.0.0 address is if you have some kind of program trying to speed up internet connections because 0.0.0.0 could technically be faster than 127.0.0.1 because there is no wait for timeout resolutions.

    If it doesn't work, and you find you are having connection problems, just repaste the long list back into your host file, and someone more knowledgeable will have to reply

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    A default hosts file is basically empty (sans a few comments on how to use it). Sounds to me like you may have run some of those tools that claim to make Windows more secure or faster or something which added all those entries.

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    Well, that's surprising. I thought there would have at least been a few comments saying to get with the times and use a more modern email service such as Gmail. If that's not your style then maybe buy a domain and use it with Zoho or Yandex who both provide free email hosting with your custom domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockblock View Post
    Well, that's surprising. I thought there would have at least been a few comments saying to get with the times and use a more modern email service such as Gmail. If that's not your style then maybe buy a domain and use it with Zoho or Yandex who both provide free email hosting with your custom domain.
    Email provider is irrelevant to a fucky hostfile, which is why no one brought it up.

    OT: Just delete every line that doesn't start with #. As you had to look up what one looks like it's safe to assume you weren't using it for any sort of custom connections/VPN connections so the odds of it breaking something is very slim.
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    Oh would you now? It truly is amazing how many heroic people we have wasting their time on internet.

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    My hosts file has almost 15000 lines, only a few indirectly related to Microsoft though.

    The default hosts file is supposed to look something like
    ## Copyright (c) 1993-2001 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This file has been automatically generated for use by Microsoft Internet
    # Connection Sharing. It contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names
    # for the home network. Please do not make changes to the HOSTS.ICS file.
    # Any changes may result in a loss of connectivity between machines on the
    # local network.
    #

    #192.168.xxx your info here
    Since we're on this subject and before anyone asks, this is why mine is that long: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/index.htm coupled with my own additions.

    And fyi, adding # before a line comments it out, it's basically ignoring that line without actually deleting it.
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  7. #7
    I have used some "speed it up" softwares, as well as been testing a few VPN's lately too such as AirVPN, NordVPN which do install stuff on the PC, duno if thats related or not but I will do as first person said and make a copy, then delete it all.

    Also I do actually use Gmail as my primary email account, was a specific reason why I needed to get into an old hotmail account. (Although both being web based, is there that much of a difference between hotmail & gmail?, not that I care, I use gmail as I said)

    Thanks for the help guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by DStrukt View Post
    I have used some "speed it up" softwares, as well as been testing a few VPN's lately too such as AirVPN, NordVPN which do install stuff on the PC, duno if thats related or not but I will do as first person said and make a copy, then delete it all.

    Also I do actually use Gmail as my primary email account, was a specific reason why I needed to get into an old hotmail account. (Although both being web based, is there that much of a difference between hotmail & gmail?, not that I care, I use gmail as I said)

    Thanks for the help guys
    Did you use one of those utilities that attempts to block microsoft telemetry in windows? They do this.

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    possibly, used alot of such utilities, i cleared the hosts now anyway and all is fine

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    Just rename the hosts file to hosts2 or something that isnt "hosts", and see if that resolves.

    Marking them as 0.0.0.0 is used for blocking advertising websites. If you have some ad site as 0.0.0.0, it won't load them.... Additionally, if a website like microsoft.com or anything useful is that it won't load. Since a TON of microsoft stuff is blocked, its probably the issue.
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    Spy bot does something similar, but it uses the local host IP address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodrunner View Post
    Spy bot does something similar, but it uses the local host IP address.
    Its pretty much the same thing.. except it doesn't block stuff you actually use =D
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    Quote Originally Posted by DStrukt View Post
    possibly, used alot of such utilities, i cleared the hosts now anyway and all is fine
    Yeah, that looked rather like you installed some kind of Windows telemetry tracking disabler. By the way, Windows and Microsoft services ignore the hosts file anyway I once added the bing.com to my hosts file and both Cortana and Edge were still able to deliver search results via Bing.

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    Really not sure what it was, I have a legit Windows 10 cd key. Though my Office isnt but Ive had it for years and this was a new issue so dont think its that.
    I think it was some tool like you guys are saying that tried doing something silly, making my computer super fast by blocking microsoft websites, yeaaaaaah good result not

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