Lack of info or changes from BfA.

[Super Kami Dende]

Some classes simply do not need an excessive amount of changes or complete re-dos for no reason.

Frost DK has also remained practically the exact same and I love that fact.

[wing5wong]

Some classes simply do not need an excessive amount of changes or complete re-dos for no reason.

Frost DK has also remained practically the exact same and I love that fact.

i dont play frost, but has the pace of your rotation effectively halfed?
what about the lack of QoL improvements, or interesting traits (beyond just ddamage increases) from your artifact?

[huth]

Some classes simply do not need an excessive amount of changes or complete re-dos for no reason.

Frost DK has also remained practically the exact same and I love that fact.

Said like someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

[Super Kami Dende]

Said like someone who has no idea what he's talking about.

Oh please, do tell how Druids need a complete rework?

[Sosuke Aizen]

Oh please, do tell how Druids need a complete rework?

I don’t think a lot of people are talking about druids in general, this has been more focused on Boomkin. Although I hated the moon spells, it has been very slow on Alpha - to the point where I ended up messing around with other casters.

[ONCHEhap]

Guardian is really good at physical and has practically nothing against Magical

Guardian is the best tank against magical though,as general damage reductions affect magical as well,on top of their huge health pool

Their only issue is how boring their are compared to almost every other spec in the game

[clevin]

Currently Balance lacks 2 things: 1. damage and 2. Ressource generation.

Oh, is THAT all....

[Lucrece]

Some classes simply do not need an excessive amount of changes or complete re-dos for no reason.

Frost DK has also remained practically the exact same and I love that fact.

Except for the fact it lost sindragosa, its biggest advantage over unholy and a main reason to bring FDK for M+

[Varolyn]

It's kind of weird. For assassination, they have actually made some nice QoL improvements and gave us real haste scaling and a fairly decent talent tree that has two different playstyles. They have also made one significant trait baseline, and while Kingsbane is gone, all of those other changes balance it out. Yet I feel some specs like Balance are really tied to their weapon yet blizz has made little changes to them so far...

[Polarthief]

Yeah, been playing Alpha. Moonkin is shit. Will try Feral from now on.

Guild officers won't be too happy about ranged switching to melee tho.

If officers are upset at you switching roles during an EXPANSION TRANSITION, your officers need to cool their fucking jets and get the sticks out of their asses. So many people come and go for expansions.

[Deleted]

Nice, the only change we got so far is the removal of the best level 30 talent, displacer beast. They replace it with a crappy 45 sec that remove dash if you choose it. TReally nice for moonkins in PvP. How can they do this when the majority of the melee classes like WW monk and Havoc DH can keep their super mobilty with short cd:s on interrupts etc. And without the legendaries and moon-spells PvE seems to be boring. Sure, it's alpha, but the lack of news is so annoying.

[huth]

Oh, is THAT all....

Well, there's the part where the rotation is currently so boring that we'll probably fall asleep on any of the longer bossfights.

[Deleted]

Currently Balance lacks 2 things: 1. damage and 2. Ressource generation. However the moon spell is something the class today doesn't have pre 100 anyway, so it deffinately is playable without.

Latest alpha build.

Battle for Azeroth Alpha Build 26367 - Spell Changes

Balance Druid Druid - Balance Spec. Decreases damage/healing by 15%

Haha, wtf?

[Polarthief]

Latest alpha build.

Battle for Azeroth Alpha Build 26367 - Spell Changes

Balance Druid Druid - Balance Spec. Decreases damage/healing by 15%

Haha, wtf?

Yup, our spec Aura just dropped our damage by another 15%, on top of generation being terrible, there being quite a bad gap in our rotation, a lot of passives missing, pretty much all our defensive stuff is gone (armor and Touch of the Moon after it finally got pretty decent), and they won't even change out our disgustingly terrible talents.

Oh and Rebirth is now a 2s cast time so that utility is effectively gone from non-Resto. Time to abandon ship!

[Deleted]

Latest alpha build.

Battle for Azeroth Alpha Build 26367 - Spell Changes

Balance Druid Druid - Balance Spec. Decreases damage/healing by 15%

Haha, wtf?

Sounds like a cleaning procedure to me.

With Legion and alle of the auras and spell changes, things have to be made baseline again so you can start changing things. Probably what is currently happening. Getting rid of all the buffs and nerfs for singe spells and spellgroups.

One interesting change however occoured:
Resto affinity got wild groth as a spell. Which means it now has: Regroth, Rejuvation, Wildgroth and Swiftmend. Which is basically the whole resto toolkit with the exception of Bloom and talent skills.
However the mana pool is still too low in order to use these spells. After 4 Regroth the pool is empty.

[Polarthief]

Sounds like a cleaning procedure to me.

With Legion and alle of the auras and spell changes, things have to be made baseline again so you can start changing things. Probably what is currently happening. Getting rid of all the buffs and nerfs for singe spells and spellgroups.

Wouldn't it be smart to set the aura to 0%? That's what it WAS at before the last build, and then they intentionally changed it to -15%.

So... no. A dev made a conscious decision to nerf a spec that was already at 0% (and underperforming due to no changes to fix all the shit issues) to -15%.

[unbound]

you do realise this is alpha.....

So it begins...


It's alpha, don't worry about it yet.

It's beta, plenty of time for them to make changes / fix that.

It's early release, Blizz will do some tuning / make further changes.

It's a month after release, why didn't you bring it up in alpha?

[Deleted]

So it begins...


It's alpha, don't worry about it yet.

It's beta, plenty of time for them to make changes / fix that.

It's early release, Blizz will do some tuning / make further changes.

It's a month after release, why didn't you bring it up in alpha?

Valid point.

It is absolutely ok to bring up concerns now. And I am with you guys, the lack of changes for druids are strange, especially considering how many really bad and clunky talents we have that noone is using.
But to me it is too strange to be intended. For now I am still in the boat of: "they haven't yet had time to implement the changes they are planning but allready change around some auras and numbers that are needed for those changes when they are allready changing the auras of certain specs."

[Lahis]

If officers are upset at you switching roles during an EXPANSION TRANSITION, your officers need to cool their fucking jets and get the sticks out of their asses. So many people come and go for expansions.

Ranged is always better than melee tho

[Deleted]

They are working harder on other classes/specializations azerite powers and honor talents than on druid baseline/talent changes. Nice to see.

"Azerite Armor Testing - April 3"